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  • pd_recapturing
    03-14 09:37 AM
    I heard that if you apply on your own and move out of US, it becomes very difficult to let the Can immigration authority about your current location and keep track of all the correspondence with them. But, the agency/lawyer does this thing very efficiantly. Any opinion on this ?





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  • Pineapple
    12-14 05:10 PM
    I can understand your concerns.. and no, I do no resent your comment. I rather welcome a different viewpoint! IV, I emphatically maintain is made up ordinary people, like you and me, regardless of nationality and culture. I'm not a core member, but that, in itself, is the point - there is no top-down hierarchy, no "party line". IV is us. It is the very embodiment of the philosophy, "Of the people, by the people, and for the people" .

    If it were any different, I would not be here.

    That said, let me address your concerns. You (and anyone else) is free to disagree.

    Let us say all country quotas are removed. In that case, yes, you will see a majority of GCs going to people of Indian and Chinese extraction. But to say that the removal of country quota is going to disadvantage people of other countries is a mathematical fallacy.
    Let me explain it this way, using an analogy. Suppose you take part in a lotto game. The prizes (GC) are limited. Say there is only one prize and you have 100 participants. Also, further, let us say 80 are from California and 20 are from Pennsylvania.
    If you play the game several times, you will see that 80 % of the prizes go to people from California.
    But, that does not mean that you will improve your chances of winning if you move from Pennsylvania to California!!
    Your odds are exactly the same - 1 in 100.

    Removing country quotas would have the same consequence: If would actually give everyone a level playing field, and everyone would have the same shot at making the coveted quota of 140,000 EB GCs.

    But when you have quotas, the probabilities are severely distorted. Especially when you have arbitrary quotas. (Why 7 %? Why not 9 %? Why not 5.247 %?).
    In this case, if you are from India or China, you are seriously disadvantaged, while someone from a smaller country gets an unfair advantage. This is not complex political philosophy. It is school boy arithmetic.

    You see what I mean?

    When an Indian or Chinese asks for no country quotas, he/she is not asking for more.. He/she can no more control the wind as control where he/she is born. He/she is just asking to have a fair chance just as anyone else in the world. Why should he/she be penalized for being born in a big country?

    I hope you see what I mean.

    Anyway, the thread is about whether we can make a constitutionality argument in the court. The issue of "fairness" is quite settled as I explained above.

    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:





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  • imneedy
    03-20 10:53 AM
    Well there is no reason to say person who started this thread is buying labor.

    Can you prove that you got an offer for substitute labor and you rejected it?

    :o

    If you have a valid point, why don't you start a new thread where people can report those users who post question on substitution. We will see if that forum gets popular.

    It is distracting to people who came to look for answers based on title of this post. Good luck at mud slinging!!

    ......because you are using labor substitution.

    At this time nobody can do anything legally against people who are using labor substitution and employers who are secretly selling labor substitution.

    This substitution is increasing backlogs, is unfair to people waiting in line, encourages employer exploitation since they use it as an incentive to woo employees and then exploit them, 'selling' is illegal but one must complain against the employer and the employee for DOL to act.

    Lawyers are part of this scam. I have read in some posts that even AILA opposed when labor substitution was being ended. It is a lost business opportunity for their lawyer members!!

    I have pointed several labor substitution members on the forums in the past. some of them were never found on the forum since they feared being caught. They must have changed their ID or ran away. So until a law is passed for banning it, such 'trade' that hurts our interests will continue.

    Good that you guys are only buying labor certifications. There is no 'legal' process to buy greencards directly from employers yet!!





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  • dealsnet
    09-05 02:08 PM
    IV leadership is now degraded to RSS/VHP terrorist mouth piece.
    Chanduv23 IS THE LEADER. So he created some fake ID'S to post these postings.
    Now onwards, IV and its activities on US watchlist. They will google hindu terrorist, and will get these postings and will watch out these guys.
    You are so agitated about the Christian church in AP. You are making hindu temple in USA and you visit often in Flushing,NY Mr. Vermulu.
    GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR GREENCARD.

    They will see your financing of these unlawful outfits.

    May be YSR came to power just to lose his life. Good for him and YSR got what he deserved, even dogs do not get that death, the worst sinners get it.

    Andhra Jyothy Telugu News Paper Online edition published from Andhra Pradesh, India (http://www.andhrajyothy.com/latestmainshow.asp?qry=/2009/sep/5new60)

    That entire family and followers like you are infested with barbaric thoughts. I hope it brings an end to his Son as well.

    Why should one have sympathy on a criminal? Do you have sympathy on Kasab, Saddam, Hitler? Do you know my caste, do you know where in AP I come from?

    Do you know what he did to Kotla Vijay Bhaskar Reddy, P.Janardhan Reddy. This gunda YSR was involved in large scale communal violence in Hyderabad, just to get into power by denigrating then CM Marri Chenna Reddy Reddy (Dec 1990) and was upset when Nedurumalli Janardhan Reddy was made CM. More then 400 innocent people were killed who have nothing do with YSR . Caste, religion are excuses by people like you to support that barbaric YSR.
    Link: Congress and the Hyderabad riots of 1990 : Black Beak blogs on sulekha, General blogs, Black Beak blog from india (http://black-beak.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/12/congress-and-the-hyderabad-riots-of-1990.htm)

    YSR a mass murderer beyond redemption

    Being a Christian CM, why is he involved in TTD activities?

    Y.S.R used his position to bring Christian institutions into the decision making loop of the TTD. There was a huge surge of churches along the roads leading to the holy shrine and a recent auction of Hindu temple land on Tirumula Hills.
    Link: IntelliBriefs: Tirumala Lands to Church : Intelligence (http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2005/07/tirumala-lands-to-church-intelligence.html)

    All posters and readers go through the links to see the facts yourself.

    Few More:
    From TOI: Democracy as mafia warfare - All That Matters - Sunday TOI - NEWS - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-782107.cms)
    From http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/782107.cms#top0 (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/782107.cms#top0)



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  • n2b
    09-23 06:15 PM
    i cant believe ppl think this is a brilliant idea..
    economy is screwed for a while..citizens are on life support..and you want immigrants to be welcomed with open arms..
    did i wake up in a fools paradise...:eek:

    Yes, you did wake up in fools paradise!!! And the first thing you did was saw yourself in the mirror!!! :p





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  • gcdreamer05
    03-27 12:13 PM
    One idiot without giving him name in comments started abusing in Hindi language.
    Dude when you have guts to put comments then put your name in it. So that I know who has issues with my comments to thread.

    And just don't give red " just for the sake of giving it make you feel happy ".


    Hey how/where do you see the comments?



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  • amsgc
    07-04 12:43 PM
    For my spouse, I've to take care of all the fees for I-485 / I-765 / I-131 / Biometric ( $325 + $180 + $170 + $ 70). For me, I've to take care only I-131 Fees ( $170). The Company Pays the fees only for my I-485 and I-765 and also take care of the Attorney Fees for both of us. They also reimburse the Medical Expenses, if the insurance does not cover the charges, only for Employee/ Primary applicant. For all dependents it is my responsibility.

    I just want to point out that whether or not your company helps offset these costs is immaterial at this point. This is money that has gone down the drain. Depending on the Oct. Visa Bulletin, you, or your employer may have to incur the same expenses all over again. So in the end, you may end up spending more than twice the amount of money, and more in application fees.

    My only beef is that if the USCIS was intentionally working hard to preempt the deluge in July, WHY DID IT NOT TALK TO THE DOS AND MAKE THIS INFO PUBLIC??? This is unethical and unacceptable conduct.





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  • Macaca
    07-04 01:01 PM
    My point is not to discourage any one, but when we wirte to media, folks will investigate all before they publish to main stream. We need to be fair and should provide the correct information, else we might loose the coverage.

    This is important. I am updating my original template and putting the name of the person who said it. That person should be able to stand up when needed!

    Also, please look at all possible holes in my points. We need to be rock solid!



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  • iviviv
    10-10 01:00 AM
    Thanks for the interesting posts and sharing of your experiences!!!

    I figure that the EB-2 and EB-3 categories are going to remain backlogged for a few years for India. So, the best way to apply for US green card would be to attain Canadian citizenship to provide flexibility of using TN visa and then apply for GC using EB-1 category as a manager. Perhaps, it is not as easy as I make it sound to get a EB-1 success case.

    Are there people out there who have successfully used the EB-1 category or know of anyone who has used the EB-1 category? Is it sufficient for one to be a first line manager to utilize the EB-1 category or does one have to be an executive?

    How many employees does one need to manage to be considered an executive?

    I guess EB-1 remains the only sure bet to get a quick GC, but it is probably difficult to qualify for it.





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  • unseenguy
    04-01 02:28 AM
    Left parties are the worst no doubt about that. Have you gone through the BJP manifesto, its IT vision document and also have you heard about Friends of BJP forums started by Indian businessmen. Yes, Advani runs his politics on religion and Ram temple. Do you think congress does not use religion? Do you hear the news that in Kerala congress has fielded candidates supported by church? Tomorrow if Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or Ramdev baba do the same thing with BJP, our media will shout from the roof top that this is communalism. Do you know Congress is allied with Muslim League in Kerala?

    Snathan, all parties use the dirty tricks. Congress, BJP, Communists. But I will always support the party which builds Ram Temple rather than the party which destroys Ram Setu and even denies the existence of Ram.

    I agree and how can we forget the reservation for OBC by congress. Persecution of sikhs after the murder of Indira Gandhi. That time congress was doing right thing it seems and they were not merchants of death of the time. Is it?

    That is not communalism but if someone says injustice is being done to Hindus or brahmins, that is communalism.



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  • smuggymba
    07-27 08:04 AM
    When did talking to strangers a crime. If you dont like you can always say no :-) . If you are as ambitious as us come join us and make millions by 40. Otherwise live your fixed income lives .

    I wont be offended as I am not with Amway/Quixtar I am just posting on behalf of them for fun :-)

    we dont need to work after 40 we will move to Florida with all the money we make , stop stalking people , stop working just enjoy everyday on the beach and big mansion bought from the savings from the regular job and live off of free $xxxx/month earnings we make out of Amway/Quixtar . Where as you guys will be slogging in 40's and 50's

    Both statements can't be true at the same time..u said u will retire with $xxx and then u say u r not associated. This con stuff is what Quixtar is known for. Lie to people and con them into joining by luring them.........this is a synonym for ponzi scheme.





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  • walking_dude
    02-14 01:35 PM
    One of the plaintiffs is a Michigan chapter member. Though IV isn't a party in the lawsuit, we have enouraged members to participate on their own. Though 2 of them backed out, 3rd one did decide to participate.

    We had formed a group on MI DL issue - Mark and me. We have been working on this issue in different ways, contacting attorneys, state lawmaker offices, other organizations and so on. IV has provided us all necessary support. But, most of the work was done by Mark & me.

    Same should happen here. Some leaders need to come forward and take the initiative to organize. Come out in public, contact other members, collect money, find plaintiffs, talk to attorney and own the initative. IV can provide necessary background help.

    Will some leaders step forward?

    Watch and see how fast the Michigan government will start issuing DL to H1B holders and to those who has pending I-485.

    http://www.aclumich.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=567
    https://www.aclumich.org/pdf/licensecomplaint.pdf



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  • amitga
    02-15 08:32 AM
    Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!

    The current situation is a gross voilation of the constitutional right of employment at will. This amounts to Involuntary servitude which is a more techincal term for slavery. Read yourself the definition of both and make your own judgement.

    In my view (though crazy and totaly impractical) the law suit should be against all the employers because they are the one who represent Govt/USCIS in processing our Green cards. Employers told us that we will process your greencard and you will be a PR in x number of years and now that x is infinite.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will)

    At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can terminate the relationship with no liability if there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship. Under this legal doctrine:

    “ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_servitude :

    Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.





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  • oliTwist
    06-14 12:44 PM
    For most of the ppl with hateful comments, Reality sucks and bites back. I agree with dilip and unfortunately, among billions voices and opinions dont matter. Just brutal personal attacks.

    That said. We cant stop the outsourcing and dumping. Today is biilions from India and china and tomorrow rest of billions from rest of world (like Africa and rest).

    If you dont have any proper counter argument, dont post. Period, dont stoop to personal attack.(race,caste,place and commutiy and alma mater).

    Grow up folks.



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 05:02 PM
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".
    Yes life is not fair but when we get a chance to be fair we (And that includes me also) let it go by.

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.
    What i porposed was doing something in the DV bill for badly retrogressed applicants (There wil be no reference to EB3 or EB2). Now the fact that this might help EB3 is because EB3 is the most badly retrogressed section.


    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.
    You know what i was tempted to do EB2 but my sense of right and wrong prevented me. My mess up the already loaded and unstable system with another app when i already have one. Now for persons who are in EB3 (Please remove me from the equation) are thier not because they wanted to but because of the way thei whole immigration crap has evolved. Sure porting will help me out and i wil not need to justify this to anyone else but i will have to face myself. I know most people do not get it. It is doing right.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).
    No comments there i agree with you

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.
    Global scale. I thought we were on scale of US. Please let me correct you EB3 is not a minority but a Majority in the EB community. just because a situation is not worth helping is not any reason to not step forward. I personally feel that IV can do something which will help EB3 because that i sthe only category which has no help from anyone. As for EB2 i have no grudges against them . You got your GC or will get it soon and all the best of luck to you, but if something can be done for EB3 it should be

    Jai Hind
    Ok the official negetive count is 4500 MINUS for me so i guess no one stepped up and tried to do the right thing. Ok you know what guys there is nothing else to talk here any more and i guess things will never change here. So here is what i am going to do

    1. I have a final reply to make to Mr VBKris77. Once i make the reply i will be gone for the day so i will not check any reply. I hope that the reply will answer all the people out here who are asking for some plan from me. Its a start but what is more important is that you guys realize that there was a serious intent and will to do something. There is one suggestion in the reply which i am sure will raise a big laugh from all you guys but please remember that the flower campaign was in the same vein and inspried by the same great man and that went on to be a hugh success.

    2. Now to really make it a point that i am done here i will delete by account (If i can) or i would request IV Core and/or IV Admin to delete my account. If that can be done i would appreciate it. If anyone else can do it that will really be a big thing. Regarding the Post. If it gets deleted well and good and i would prefer it gets deleted because there has been no impact of the thread and when i say impact i mean impact in thinking of senior members and donors





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  • pitha
    02-18 07:52 PM
    I don’t get the point? If somebody comes here on visitor visa and files for 485 or people here illegally flip over to EB blah blah blah then you fix the loophole, you just don’t kill the 485 measure. If you have a brain tumor then you surgically remove the tumor. You just don’t cut of the head. Your solution to oppose 485 seems similar to that. What about the people who have been waiting for for a couple of years to get the labor and I140 cleared and cannot apply for 485 now, If you get laid off without 485 you don’t get AC21 provisions to get a similar job and the whole process is gone down the drain. Why are you worried about somebody who might do something in future when you don’t even want to bother about the people who would benefit from 485 measure right now and right here?

    As you yourself suggested people from India (eb2 and eb3) should not worry about looking at Visa bulletins for the next 10 years because at current pace it will take at least 10 years. There is no company in USA in technology field which will keep you in the same position for 10 years. And you are opposing 485 on some loophole, so if I am reading between the lines people from India who have not yet applied for 485 might as well pack there bags and go back to India. Thanks a lot for your delightful insight!!!!!

    BTW I talk about India not just because I am from India but because it is the most severely retrogressed category in both eb2 and eb3.Ofcourse people from ROW will also face the same problems I described above in EB3 if they have not applied for 485



    For example the 485 filing without priority date; how many people knew that a person on visitor visa could file a 485; people from family base who are illegally here would be able to flip over to EB and come into this stream; people on L-1; f-1, etc. .



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  • Imigrait
    06-15 07:37 PM
    Guys, I am sure everyone in this forum will get greencard, unless they don't want it. You just need to be patient and wait for your turn. My priority date is 06/03 and EB3. I am pretty sure, I should get my GC by EOY 2011. I am in this country since 1997. Just hang on to your jobs or find a job if you loose one. You will get your GC. GC shouldn't stop you from pursuing your interests buying house or starting a business, there are always ways to do it.

    How're you sure? :confused: or would you rather say you hope and think that this is a possibility.





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  • voldemar
    03-27 09:40 AM
    By Apr 26, if the LC Sub elimination becomes effective,
    How do you now that? Any sources?

    will USCIS reject all pending LC Sub cases (I mean pending I-140, 485 etc using LC Sub) ?If text of the proposed memo will be the same, then all pending I-140 based on LC substitution should be denied.





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  • Macaca
    01-18 08:16 PM
    I hope that this memo is not mis-used to affect the good apples, that's it.


    If employer can not directly control/supervise his employee's work and then H1B new petition/extension may not be approved.

    Why is an "apple" bad if employer does not direcly supervise him/her but good if employer directly supervises him/her?

    BTW, "apple" is not an Indian symbol. Moira Herbst considers curry as an Indian symol. But we can use "mango" if curry riles Indians.





    swethanjit
    07-09 07:29 PM
    Dear Sir / Madam,

    I am currently on OPT which is valid till July 2009. Also, my H1-B is approved through a company X starting oct 2008. Currently I got a job with company Y on my OPT. Can I continue to work on my OPT with company Y till July 2009? OR Do I need to transfer my H1B to company Y to be able to continue to work after Oct 2008?

    Regards
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    venetian
    05-11 06:33 PM
    Illusions,

    If BBC, AFP, AP & Reuters are considered a reliable source of information, then what is happening in Sri Lanka is genocide.

    venetian, you could say that the Tamils in SL were just as a much discriminated in SL as the Muslims in India.

    There is no such Genocide happening in SL as some claim. As a matter of fact the LTTE ethnically cleansed the Muslims from the NE of the country in the 90's, yet the Muslims in SL didn't bare arms against the LTTE.

    Mind you the civil war in SL is against the LTTE, not the Tamils.