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  • furiouspride
    07-31 02:15 AM
    Furiouspride's first encounter with the Amway posse!

    Circa 2000: Furiouspride came to the US just like any other grad student on an Air India plane. He had $2000 safely tucked away into multiple travelers checks. The very next day that he arrived in the land of opportunities, he was whisked away to a high-profile business seminar. There were shiny Camry's, Corolla's and Accords everywhere. Any which way he saw, he saw powerful men dressed in full suits who only meant business. Awe-inspiring men who knew what they wanted. It felt like it was straight out of a Hollywood movie. Just that the actors were all Indian. "Maybe this was my calling. This is why I had arrived in America.", he thought. His 21 year-old FOB mind was clearly impressed by all the 'awesome'ness and new-found 'freeeedom' around! All of his friends were told that they would be instant millionaires if they joined this business. A business that was filled with nothing but pure awesomeness and unlimited income. Independent Business Owners in Ummrika the very second day was not a small feat after all! And all they had to do to become millionaires was pay a small fee of $100? It felt untrue. The pessimists in them said "Would this possibly work? How could it be so easy?" When they heard four more hours of tape on the way back, they were completely convinced. This was the best idea ever since sliced bread; just a little better! The math totally added up.

    Fast forward four months: The Fall semester was almost over and the American dream was all blurry by now. All of the IBOs had gone bankrupt and the prospects of returning to our holy motherland seemed bigger and brighter. Those past four months had flown by in buying the best toothpastes and toilet papers ever known to mankind while we went to bed empty stomach. Oh how we wished Quixtar gave us PVs for buying lunch too. Then the time for the dreaded phone call came. The millions weren't coming, so arrangements had to be made for a few thousands at least. The $2500 American Express card obviously wasn't good enough for the Spring. Yours truly explained the situation to his old man and innocently mentioned Quixtar in passing. Hell broke loose. It was the daddy's turn to be furious; for his son had fallen trap to an MLM scheme of all things in US of A. Yours truly had brought disgrace to the family.

    A few weeks later, the cashiers checks arrived. After all, our American dream was still alive, for a couple more months at least. We had all learned our lessons. It was time to chase real dreams and bring meaning to our lives. That very night, all the IBOs got together and unanimously arrived at a decision. It was time to retire!

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  • knowDOL
    05-19 09:44 AM
    August 2003 is a good PD if it were EB2 and you could have stayed with your company. I heard in this forum from someone that, if the person is Masters graduate and worked in related for three years they are exempt from cap even though they applied in EB3 category. If this is true, it is good for you to stay in your current company and not try substitution. If this is not true and if I were you I would have gone for substitution.

    What ever you do, do it with good terms with your current employer, so you can come back and join them and be able to use the 2003 PD, if some thing goes wrong with your substitution. If you leave the company and join something else, if you think that you cannot join them back, then it may not worth it. Again, it depends on your personal situation, if you don't have a spouse who is waiting for EAD to work, you should not be risking this.

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  • snathan
    08-16 11:41 AM
    So shall we strip search Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton on their next visit to India? They can also be accused of bringing something illegal, isnt it?

    Does our people have the balls to do that?

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  • venetian
    05-12 04:04 AM
    Come on guys

    Why there is so much name calling

    I read the entire forum postings to get a perspective. I might quote from most of the participants.

    Honestly speaking most of us are members of IV because we want to fix the problem with employment based legal immigration system. We do this because we want to get GC to settle down in life, or to get the deserving promotion or start the new venture we were dreaming about - all in the US. Many of us may eventually apply for the US citizenship.

    In some of the forums, members talk of being born in India or China as sin, they get so desperate during the visa bulletin announcements, depressed when they see the PD moving backwards, envy non India & China EB2 applicants, heated EB3 vs EB2 debate, heated labor substitution debate etc etc etc. Personally I know many who curse themselves for being born in India, I’m sure they do not literally mean but it is out of frustration of being in this country for many years and not able to do what they wish in career or in life because of the GC issue, that being said,

    Nandakumar’s only grievance is that present Govt of India does not help or care for the suffering of Sri Lankan Tamils, I cannot speak for him but I think because of his intense support for the cause of SL tamils, he might have over stated his displeasure towards India but he never once mentioned Tamil Nadu or its secession or even splitting Sri Lanka , or fights between some of the states in India, or anything related to regionalism and did not even mention or support LTTE in his original postings but only to respond to other members postings.

    As I said earlier, all most all of the IV members want to get GC and may want to become US citizen, I’m not sure whether the members who had responded to Nandakumar’s postings have the intentions of permanently settling down in the US. If they do, I don’t see any difference between end objective of either of them, one may present extreme view of protest and reason that for getting US citizenship and other might reason that there is better opportunity in the US than India to get US citizenship, bottom line is both want to leave India and become a citizen of another country, in this case US and show allegiance to the US and its constitution, there after both needs to get Indian visa to visit India, what an irony.

    We are a educated lot, I think members should show restraint and stop this name calling business, if they do not agree on an issue, they should agree to disagree but should not disgrace a person and as another member did, do not bring parents into the discussion, just because the other party has opposite view.

    Recent past USCIS has raided many Indian owned consulting companies for visa and immigration fraud, earlier too few consulting company bosses were arrested for labor substitution fraud etc, this shows how desperate are people to get GC, why someone has to involve in such frauds to be in the US permanently, what India or their home country has done to them, to leave their home country for US, there are many whose business is to bad mouth India with others. What to call these people?

    Another interesting aspect is, nandakumar speaks for himself but others speak for all the Indians, not sure who elected them to represent all the Indians and how do they know the views of all the Indians.

    A honest question for the members who are bashing Nandakumar, you are all here in the IV forum for time pass or with the intention of helping IV to work towards overhauling employment based legal immigration process and eventually to get GC and the US citizenship?

    PS: I do support the genuine aspirations of the SL Tamils and NOT any organization designated as terrorist organization by some countries including the US and India


    It is pretty much proven that in your mental territory you have already ditched India and it is the USA which will take long to grant you a GC and then afterwards citizenship for which you almost represented your beggar like mentality. But that is not my concern and should not be. I have only one question to you and I hope youwould try to answer it with all possible honesty.

    Q: What will be your view regarding USA's official policy to consider LTTE a terrorist organisation? ONce you will be come US citizen how will you align yourself with this policy?


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  • QuickGreenCard
    09-15 09:52 PM
    Surely appreciate your great service. Please help if you can. My advance parole got approved and sent by mail on Aug 13. I havent received it yet. It should not take this long..... It seems like it got missed in the mail. Can I do anything about it..............

    I called the USCIS cust. rep. They said, the only thing I could do is to re-file it again. How far is this correct.....

    Please advice....


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  • Openarms
    07-28 01:46 PM
    Where are the Attorney's responses on this thread??


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  • test101
    07-10 11:31 AM
    I started the process myself. I got a job offer in one of Vancouve hospitals. I'll be there in 2 months. never the less i was hoping that i'll stay next to my family in the US :)

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  • YesGC_NoGC
    06-26 12:55 PM
    Fact - My 485 has not ben filied yet, still on mercey of Employer after giving them all the paperwork. My PD was current for June filing.

    Rumour - The dates have been retrogressed already for July as USCIS already recd enough applications to fullfill the remaining visa number for this fiscal year. Also USCIS officers visited IV and could sense the number of applications that will pile up on July 1st hence they decided to retrogress and release the dates on Month to month basis.

    Does this make sense !!


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  • gcformeornot
    01-13 08:55 PM
    Can USCIS face legal challenges on this? It was just a memo, no law has been changed by the Government; the laws are just the same they were when they let it about a million people or so through these IT consulting companies.

    Now they go back and say that was a misinterpretation of existing laws :eek:
    don't you think. AC21 (the famous Yates Memo) is also a memo. People expect USCIS to follow it though.... :o

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  • chanduv23
    06-26 12:36 PM
    What I noticed is these kind of roumor comes from those who already filed and got their receipts :D :D

    Isn't it??? ;)

    Mid month retrogression is possible acc to Murthy but that may not happen in July

    Everything is a speculation here. USCIS is the winner - always keeps us guessing.

    Some optimistic coments I heard is - USCIS is now prepared to clear backlogs and will accept a lot of applications this month as they do not want this year's visa quota wasted.


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  • snram4
    01-15 06:08 PM
    Durbin/Grassley bill will check them also. But it will impact some good people also. We are opposing that because many of IV members may be impacted by that. Also most IV members feel that bill is conspiracy to eliminate h1b program. There is no easy solution for these issues. If they relax the rules fraud will increase and if they tighten it then some good persons also impacted. So the fight will go on forever. But economy will decide future of H1b and immigration. You cannot prevent restrictions if employment growth does not return to normal levels. But restrictions will not block H1b program but will bring best people in the world.
    only consulting companies need to follow the law...? what about infy,wipro, tcs placing L1 consultants at the client location ?

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  • eyeswe
    09-15 01:31 PM
    It seems most analysts here think that by Q4 2010 the approval of 485 could theorotically reach mid 2006 with a liberal allocation of spill-overs and a conservative estimate of abandonment etc.

    My question is in order for CIS to have sufficient 485 cases to review .. will they not need to advance dates still further so they can start reviewing the apps and in 2-4 years time give those folks the GC.. I am specifically talking about all those who missed the July 2007 bus and whose priority date is after july 30, 07.... any hope for poor souls like us to at least file for EAD in 2010?Or is this wishful thinking?


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  • lazycis
    02-14 03:49 PM
    Here is my 2 cents on this

    Lets say the interested muster around plaintiffs and sue USCIS. Also, The court agrees that USCIS did not do its duty. Will the court go to the extent of ruling over INA which clearly says that unused visa numbers cannot be recaptured? Will the courts/judicial system set such a precedent where they will go against law just because the agency failed to implement it correctly? I don't think they will set such a precedent by overruling against the law set up by congress and the President who signed it. By long shot, Can the court recommend congress to fix the situation by changing the law and by allowing recapture? Possibly. Does that help and fix our issue?

    Can you cite a provision of the INA that unused EB numbers cannot be reused? There is a provision that DV lottery number expire at the end of a fiscal year. The absence of such provision for EB numbers proves that Congress did not want to prevent recapture of EB or famili-based numbers. Moreover, such recapture happened several times in the past. Plus, check Galves v. Howerton ruling a few pages back.

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  • chanduv23
    06-28 01:29 PM
    I heard that Fedex is going on strike in Nebraska in the month of July and will end their strike when retro kicks in?

    Did anyone else hear this?? Can anyone post a valid link to this other than

    OH OH OH OH Mathew site link????

    :D :D :D :D :D


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    07-03 04:17 PM

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  • roseball
    01-13 01:49 PM
    Please explain why these (see above) will be more difficult if you have read it. What precautions / strategy our members can take etc.

    This memo, if followed, could stop anyone working for consulting companies (body shops) from getting H1 extensions or new H1s on the basis of lack of employer-employee relationship. People working for companies like IBM, Accenture, etc are still ok but people who work through consulting companies at client sites where the consulting company (employer/petitioner) only runs the employees payroll and has no control over an employee's day-to-day job responsibilities, are now deemed to be lacking an employer-employee relationship and hence may no longer get H1s (new or extensions).


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  • kingkong
    09-04 02:00 PM
    I am from AP. And my father had first hand experience getting ripped off by this dead mans cronies when they threatened and grabbed my fathers small plot, that he had bought way back in 89, on the out-skirts of Hyd. All it took was one single threatening phone call to my father and my father signed the sale deed for the land the very next day, not asking a single penny in return. His family was more precious to him than the bloody piece of land. My father worked as a clerk in a central govt office. He is a simple man and has no clout.

    I am sad that YSR is dead. I wish he survived but with 3rd degree burns and limped out his miserable life for the next 100 yrs.

    I am from Kerala. not from AP.(studied in Bangalore and have friends from almost every state from India) I AM NOT A REDDY OR RAO.

    Some of my friends are from Bihar (CHILDREN OF MP'S, MLA) go home for elections and lead booth capturing. They shared their experience with me.



    Let the people from AP, comment about him. If they give him second time, it is clear that majority like him. No doubt about it. If he is not good, why you people campaign against him by blogs for go to India and vote against him ???

    I DIDN'T SUPPORT ANY POLITICIANS. But have a sympathy for a dead person and other 5 people in the accident.
    This can happen to any one of us at any time. Do not rejoice in Tragedies.

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  • samay
    07-28 09:13 PM
    Dear Sir,

    This is my situation

    1. Applied for H1B Extension on Jul-10-2007
    2. Got RFE on Mar-2008 and replied to RFE on Apr-2008
    RFE: 1. client contract 2. last 2 yrs my tax return
    3. After Reply to RFE no news from USCIS
    4. Applied for Premium processing on Jul-14-2008
    5. I485 Pending and having EAD/AP for my family and Jul-09-2008 applied for EAD Renewal

    My Questions:
    1. Since my H1B expired on Jul-14 What is my status? Can I work till I get my H1B approval?.

    2. How can I expedite the H1B Process ? (already upgraded to PP)
    3. If I get approval , do I need to go back to home country to get stamping?

    Thanks for your time and help.


    You should have got a response from USCIS by now or by tomorrow latest. If not then they will have to refund your fee. Once you get approved, when you travel outside of US you will have to get your H-1 B visa -either in your home country or Mexico or Canada.

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  • _TrueFacts
    09-28 09:11 PM
    Assets gained by YSR in his 5 years as Ex Chief Minister

    • Raheja Corporation land allocation for Infrastructure ( 200 acres in first phase and 300 acres in second phase)- EX CM’s son gets 50 percent share
    • 500 acres in the 1000 acres allocation to Gangavaram port
    • Brahmani Steels investment – Rs.40,000 crore - EX CM’s son gets 50 percent stake
    • Indu and Brahmani Infotech companies get 250 acres with 50 percent stake to EX CM’s son.
    • Rs.3500 crore investment for a six million tones Cement factory at Kamalapuram in Kadapa district.
    • Rs.6000 crore Hydro electric project -1200 MW in Sikkim– EX CM son gets 50 per cent stake
    • 1000 acres bought in and around Bangalore- land cost Rs.Three crore per acre.
    • Rs.250 crore commercial complex on Bannerghatta Roadin Bangalore
    • 25 acres land in Hyderabad, Kukkapally Housing Board location.
    • 90 acres in benami bought in IT corridor area of Gacchibowli .
    • 151 acres of granite mining lands in Prakasam district ,Cheemakurthi ( world famous for its black and gold granite stone ) in benami company ( Gimpex ).
    • Mauritiusshell companies 2 I Capital , Flury Emerging Capital purchase 125 crore worth shares in Sandur Power Ltd –
    • Benami subsidiaries : Bhagavat Sannidhi, Carmel Asia Holdings, Harish Infra, Classic Realty, Janani Infra,Marvel Infra ,SiliconBuilders, Capstain Infra, Shalome Infra, Inspire Hotels
    • Purchase of Assigned lands -1000 acres in Kandur village and 500 acres in Chitwel villageof Kadapadistrict .
    • Sakshi , newspaper with EX CM’s son as chairman with investment of Rs.600 crore.

    1. 40 companies from Kolkatta, Gujarat, Chennai, Bangalore,Maharashtrainvest in Sakshi venture

    2. Such unheard of investments from all over Indiain a Telugu news paper venture .

    3. Two investors in Sakshi - Artilians Bioinnovations and Stocknet International listed in global stock markets- the share priced at less than Rs. One and promoters stake only 0.3 percent

    4. But both companies pay premium of Rs.350 for Sakshi scrips .

    5. All companies which invested in Sakshi and Jagati publications get Government projects – Vanpic,SEZ,Mining licenses.

    6. Price Waterhouse Cooper ( PwC) of Satyam Computers Scam fame are auditors of Jagati Publications.

    7. PwC certifies that Sakshi has a circulation of 12 lakhs daily to beget Govt Ads .

    8. AP Govt giving Ads to Sakshi without ABC certificates.

    • Ex EX CM’s son has 50 percent stake in Rs.1200 crore 3000 MW power project in Arunachal Pradesh in collaboration with the AP Genco and M/s Athena Power energy and Ventures pvt Ltd .
    • Tandla Solutions , another benami unit of EX CM’s son purchased 250 acres in Ranga Reddy district with an investment of Rs.500 crore.

    Illegal occupation of thousands of acres in Kadapa District

    • Though owned only 120 acres in Idupulapaya Estate EX CM family grabbed over 1000 acres and built a compound wall .All these lands belonged to assigned lands of poor, tank bed lands, temple lands, forest lands and even roads .
    • 1000 acres in Kondur village and 500 acres in Chitwel village in illegal occupation of EX CM’s family.
    • Bungalow constructed at Pulivendula over 5 acres land at a cost of Rs.Three crore.

    Y.S.Vivekananda Reddy

    • Chief Ministers brother and Ex MP from Kadapa constructed a complex over 2000 sq yard land in front of HitechCityin Madhapur worth Rs.25 crore belonging to Ghatkesar Gurukul Trust and rented to a software company .

    Y V Subba Reddy

    • Buillt a Hydro project on Tungabhadra river near Rajolibanda diversion location and affected drinking water source for Mahbubnagar district .
    • Encroached 1000 sq yards of Jublee enclave of Jaibheri in the name of Swarnalatha Reddy and illegal lay out approved over surplus land declared .
    YSR brother Sudhikar Reddy ( son-in-law of C C Reddy , Govt Advisor)
    • He is a partner in a project for mining Illuminate mineral extraction from beach sand in North coastal Andhra coast in collaboration with an Switzerlandcompany Bothlitrade Inc .

    B. Yuvaraj Reddy (YS cousin)

    • Reports of embezzlement of Rs. 2.60 Crore in the Yuvraj Chit funds by Yuvraj Reddy.

    Ravindranath Reddy, brother-in law of YS

    • Tried to grab farm lands in Denduluru villageof West Godavaridistrict in the name of setting up a fertilizer factory .
    • He was instrumental in getting the irrigation contract of Sarvarayasagar-Vamikonda -Galeru nagari second phase works to IVRCL through Gamon India ltd.
    • Encroached 3084 sq.ds of land in Survey No 67 of Madhapur ( IT corridor ) , regularization as landof Kothagudainstead of Madhapur.

    EX CM’s relatives (Biradari)

    • Four acres of land worth Rs. 50 crore in Pokkalavada of Manikonda in Rajendranagar Mandal of R R District given to close relatives of YS in the name of Genus Sajarath Ministries for setting up a Orphanage and Old age home, prayer hall and recreation at a lease of just Rs. 40,000 per annum for 33 years .
    • Relatives Y S Madhusudhan Reddy, Venugopal Reddy , Pratap Reddy grab 3.15 acres of land valued at Rs.15 crore in survey no 682/4.684/4, 700/2 near S V Subba Reddy college in Kadapa town

    Outer ring Road scam

    • Bharati Reddy ( wife of EX CM’s elder brother )

    1. Bought 8.35 acres in Kolluru in 2005 September in survey no 148 and paid Rs.35.5 lakhs but now valued at Rs.13 crore.

    • Y V Subba Reddy – Relative

    1. Two acres ( survey no 25 ) in Osman sagar
    2. 68.8 acres in Survey No- 117,119,121,122,123,124,125,126,131.132.134,136,14 1 . Land valued at Rs.20 crore when closer to the ring road but now valued at Rs.125 crore after alignment of the Ring Road altered to benefit them .

    • Ramasubbamma ( Another close relative)

    She bought 3.28 acres in Kolluru Survey No-194/B and paid just Rs.22.20 lakhs but today valued at Rs. Six crore.


    Same story in Visakha Pharma city

    • Parthasarathy Reddy, chairman of Hetero Drugs is a close associate of Chief Minister.
    • Hetero Drugs could get land in Visakha Pharma city and Jedcherla Formulations SEZ at throw away prices .
    • Hetero drugs later within days invested Rs.13 crores in the Jagati publications enterprise of EX CM’s son .

    Ramky gets cheap land

    • Aeros Project , a subsidiary of Ramky an IT company also invested Rs 7.77 crore in the Jagati Publications.
    • Ramky got favors from the Government in various forms. Given land allocations in Visakha Pharma city , exempted from land taxes in the lands near Shamshabad airport . Got 19 acres from Housing board for throw away price .Blessings of the Govt in its real estate business.

    Jedcherla to Jagati

    • Another pharma company that benefited from investment in Jagati is Arabindo Pharma .
    • The Trident Life Sciences , a subsidiary of Arabindo Pharma invested Rs.6.8 crore in Jagati publications.
    • In turn it could get the Jedcherla formulations SEZ .
    • Hetero drugs and Arabindo pharma are managing the Jedcherla SEZ.

    Nadargul operators in Jagati:

    • Potluri Hariprasad, the key architect in Nadargul land scandal has also invested Rs.48.61 crore in the Jagati publications .

    • Bogus companies and benami individuals mortgaged the lands of Nadargul for a loan of Rs.800 crore.

    Cement Syndicate:

    • AP government favored Dalmia Cements, India Cements and Penna Cements to sell cement at Rs. 200 per bag in turn for their investments in Jagati Publications.

    12-13 10:08 PM
    It is surprising to me that some, so called high skilled, folks can be so blinded by their desire to get the green card that they are unable to see right from wrong.

    Never mind the pain of those affected by this inequitable system, or if this is technically legal, or whether it can be challenged in court. Think about what you are condoning – an unjust government policy that presumably works for you, now. By advocating an unfair policy today, in the long run you are undermining your own position as an immigrant in this country.

    You seem to be crying out loud - “I am a high skilled foreigner, but I am different, different from them! Look, look at my color, texture, please look at my passport. Oh no fuck that, please look at my place of birth. Skills? Yes we all have them, but let’s not get distracted. I am different - will you please look at my birth certificate, please?”

    Oh I hear ya. But all said and done, you will still be a foreigner to the average Joe on the street, even after you get your green card or naturalization papers. And if things go south, then those unethical policy makers, whom you give a pass today, will find a way to get you – and yes, that birth certificate will come handy. It is important to be united, and stay united.

    To say that the United States has the right to make any law with respect to immigration doesn’t make an unjust law right. Presumably you are well educated and can understand this. And speaking of education – was it your degree or birth certificate that you took to your job interview that set this process in motion? It is counter intuitive to have such a provision where, to begin with, it is your skills that enabled you to get in line.

    Apart from the resounding racial undertone, this policy is also harmful for the society at large. It encourages people to be conscious about their origins, be aware of their differences and the whole idea of America being a melting pot just goes down the toilet.

    I understand it is difficult for some to fight this unfair system, because first you may have to fight and win against your basic instincts. It is hard for us, but this attitude may make things harder for you in the future.

    Lets stay united and open minded, and fight for a fair system.

    09-04 12:01 PM
    Dont just fool by news and be little skeptical . All system(media, politician ) is so corrupted. You never know, This may be manufactured news, labeling natural deaths across AP to Shock/suide to make easy road for his son to be CM....


    That might be true..revelation of a corrupt politician...masking people deaths for a vicious cause of sympathy.