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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 08:17 AM
    to some of your points, but
    is the response from amitjoey not enough to understand why PlainSpeak's view won't work ?

    amitjoey response is good, correct, to the point and more civil than any one else. As you said there are more silent readers who if don't see amitjoey's response will consider IV is trying to do something wrong by harsh response (through their senior members/donors). Just read all comments except amitjoey's the thread will give different view (-ve to IV forum).

    When some one reads uncivilized comments they don't just think bad about the person but also get -ve impression about the forum. You are missing important point, just because some one wants to give comments so that silent readers find abt people like plainspeak/gcperm but in reality it works just against the forum nothing else.

    And when we want to create a professional forum for a reason/cause, as a forum member we need to maintain some professionalism in our comments. If anyone find any thread is not appropriate respond perfectly like amitjoey or report it to moderator.

    As a new member (joined just 2008 and read only reasonable threads) I never know someone GCPerm and anything about his/her good/bad threads. So, it doesn't add any value if senior members fighting on who is who.

    I am speaking for benefit of this forum which will benefit every person who join/participate. But if a member doesn't bother or care about what kind of -ve impression they are leaving then what is the real benefit of having that member. Just because that member don't care about having more members doesn't reflect the forum core members view.

    You don't agree to my views but your response is nice and civilized and that is what I am talking about. I would say amitjoey's way of response (so do your response to my comment) would help both PlainSpeak and every members who reads the thread to understand what is good/bad for us as group.

    One thing I disagree is your rough reality, in the name of rough reality we don't have to write rough wording in a forum where we need more people to join for a cause. You may not want any more member but I don't think that could be the case with IV core members. Why, mostly (not all) people who are in this forum will stop working for the forum after getting GC and we always need new members (may be 1 in 10000) who will add value to the forum.

    And I haven't responded to PlainSpeak because I have no knowledge about that topic and I am still understanding/learning it. Also amitjoey's response is more than enough which is civilized and perfect (at least to me). Unless I have something to add to his point I can just keep quiet instead of leaving -ve impression abt the forum.

    For any cause as a group we can fight with violence (uncivilized) and without violence (civilized). There is always people for both approach, but as a forum member we need to follow the core members way rather than our own way. And part of user registration we all agree to the terms and one of it is "By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws."

    I had my own experience in this forum about hateful comments towards me by a senior member/donor. But that particular thread got removed because of so much hateful comments. Once we start accepting hateful comments it won't stop at any level and the forum will be filled with hateful comments. If you feel some thread/comment is not good better respond properly or report to moderator. Why we need to fill this forum with hateful comments when we have tools to avoid it.
    My Friend ActAccord thank for saying things the way they are. And i am especially thankfull for the fact that you made it clear that you do NOT yet have an opinion on on topic at hand. People should discuss the pros and cons of any idea and come up with an approach based on that discussion.

    From where i am standing i do not see you as a junior member. I am sure that maybe sometime down the line you and i might be on the opposite sides of a discussion and may not agree on an approach but we would still have respect for each others dedication to their point of view.

    Now if you have been on this forum for sometime now you know what is going to happen next when everyone wakes up and reads your first post. You will have all these so called senior member (nothing senior about them) and junior members who will come at you from all sides with both fists swinging and abuses so brace youselves and give a fitting reply to anyone who disses you just like how you did to GreyHair down below

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  • qasleuth
    05-28 11:55 PM
    Mr. Oppenheim estimated that there are currently 25,000 EB2 and EB3 cases from Indian nationals that have been reviewed and are only waiting for visa numbers for final processing.

    Help me understand here: when pre-adjudicating applications, either you pre-approve, if not satisfied issue RFE or deny. Why would only 25,000 applications have been pre-adjudicated ? NSC processing timeframe being Aug 27, 2007 and TSC Aug 8, 2007, shouldn't the 25,000 number be much higher when compared to the total of 120,000 applications chargeable to India?

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  • webm
    02-12 12:51 PM
    Looks fresh and some positive movement for India EB3 ROW..this time atleast...:)

    Go India EB3 Go...

    Thanks to IV...


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  • ronhira
    01-13 04:38 PM
    So i was right GCPerm was kicked out of this forum for being EB3 ................

    Tell me something Ron . In you opinion what would freak out all the guys more and again
    - If I am GCPerm
    - If I am NOT GCPerm

    Let me know which so that i will agree to be the opposite and then hopefully the guys will calm down or not freak out more. A whole day with the guys here on IV and i am feeling like i took care of 20 bawling, crying children for the complete time. I am not sure i can do that for another day.

    Just between you and me I am not GCPerm but shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone anything or it might lead to another round of slugfest.

    i'll not tell anyone that u'r gcperm.... ok?

    btw, no one is freaked out knowing that u'r gcperm..... i guess no one cares for u....


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  • Picasa
    07-27 03:08 PM
    If you are making lot of money "more than $115". Please donate it to IV.

    I get good monthly checks every month (more then $115), and they don't seem to bounce either. And good thing it increases. Don't need to google anything while I can get from credible sources.

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  • _TrueFacts
    09-03 11:29 PM
    I never thought CHANDUV23 will do dirty politics. A time will come to show the real color of the people. Do not rejoice when some one who is dead. It can happen to anyone. No guarenty we will see the home land again.


    You picking on CHANDUV23 is unwarranted. You lack debating skills. Do you have a argument to make against "unprecedented political killings, govt and personal land grabbing, corruption, and opportunistic politics of YSR" ?


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  • hiralal
    05-31 03:47 PM
    That's a much better suggestion than playing carrot-and-stick on real-estate bargains Mr. Hiralal.

    Now, what would really be effective is for our own people that are already naturalized and integrated and assimilated and digested in the US system to stand up for our cause.

    Please, do this for us seniors. As citizens and permanent residents, your voice will be effectively heard. Case in point - legislation on re-uniting families. To begin with, family based has nearly 60% more visas than employment based and nearly 80% of the visas available are exempt from per-country limits. And yet, the politicians want to reform family based immigration process because the people at the receiving end are their citizens. There is nothing wrong with it because the wait-time for extended family members are really long too which is a shame. But you see, there are bills that are actively discussed and passed in that category i.e fundamental solutions are being explored.

    Why is Mr. Bobby Jindal and likes of him not taking up our cause actively? People use their "humble-background" in campaign times. Why do they fail in holding out a helping hand to people that are stuck in such "humble-background"? Do you see such apathy in other minority communities?


    there is no harm in having several campaigns ..that will atleast keep members active and interested case you haven't noticed lot of people on EAD have just become laid back and lazy (and sort of insist that nothing will go wrong )

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  • manderson
    02-12 12:00 PM
    correction: EB3 ROW = 01JAN05 !!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Just 1.25 more year and I would have been current! Damn!!!!



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  • snathan
    01-15 06:17 PM
    Durbin/Grassley bill will check them also. But it will impact some good people also. We are opposing that because many of IV members may be impacted by that. Also most IV members feel that bill is conspiracy to eliminate h1b program. There is no easy solution for these issues. If they relax the rules fraud will increase and if they tighten it then some good persons also impacted. So the fight will go on forever. But economy will decide future of H1b and immigration. You cannot prevent restrictions if employment growth does not return to normal levels. But restrictions will not block H1b program but will bring best people in the world.
    Whether you like it or not...they cannot save the job by restricting the H1/L1B... simply the job will fly to offshore. First they need to fix the GC black hole� stop harassing people before they are enforcing the rules. Then no one needs to work for consultants

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  • alisa
    02-14 10:11 PM
    If we increase the number of links from other web-sites, blogs etc to, then immigrationvoice should show up earlier.

    1) Does this mean that if we link from our webpages/homepages to IV, that it will count?

    2) How about if I set up a website, create a thousand pages in it, and put a link to IV on each of those pages? Does that count? Is it the number of pages that point to IV that count? Or the number of websites? Do you know how the spiders work?

    3) Also, how about clicking on IV. Like, can I google retrogression, and then go to page 2, and then click on IV. Will that count? If it does, then we can all do that daily. All the bums that come here and don't pay, they can atleast do this.

    I am bringing this up because I had been googling retrogression for a long time, and IV never came up.


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  • user1205
    02-15 06:31 PM
    probably true but because most of them are on H4 which means someone else in their family is H1.

    I think it was reported that students from India is the largest % of students in US universities.

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  • Administrator2
    09-23 10:28 AM
    We believe that this is a great idea to address our issues and at the same time allows us to do our share in the time of crisis. Please send the personalized email communication ASAP as the key lawmakers are in the process of discussing possible package to address the economic/housing crisis.

    Even if this is not designed to directly help your situation, please understand that if such a proposal is accepted, it will make most green card applicants exempt which will free up visa numbers for those who do not want to seek such an exemption. So it is a win-win situation for all. Kindly send communications ASAP.



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  • mallu
    02-14 02:50 PM
    Let USA take a statistics of the current population and then decide which category of countries need more or less immigration to balance true diversity.

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  • ns33
    02-18 02:18 PM
    Did you ask you lawyer? It's so much easier to criticize.
    My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.

    Not sure if this was answered earlier... however, since this is employment based immigration and every step of the way we've needed to have our employer's approval/sponsorship to do anything; can 485 beneficiary be a plaintiff in such case without their employer's consent? especially if employer is one the the major corps.? how realistic it is to assume that a major corporation. would like one of their H1-B lead class action against USCIS?


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  • manderson
    02-12 12:09 PM
    pls read my post. I said EB3 ROW

    are you dreaming ... India EB3 is 01AUG01

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  • prem_goel
    06-12 01:32 AM
    Guys, I've heard (and only heard - don't red me now) that Cognizant has its H-1Bs being rejected and I've heard as far as this that some of the people in Cognizant who got green card through EB-1 category have been deported due to investigation after complaints regarding misuse of EB-1 category by these companies.

    has anyone else heard the same?


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  • jaithran
    01-14 09:24 AM
    First of all, I am neither a donor nor a person interested in spending any of my time & energy (Except filing documents and visiting forums like IV once in a while to check progress) in running behind this GC stuff, as that�s not my priority-simple. But I wish and would really be happy if I get my GC quicker as it got its benefits. Having said that, I am not against any kind of efforts volunteered by people/group, who are very serious about GC and I really respect and appreciate their efforts, but I think I have the freedom to express my sincere opinion.
    Plainspeak really make some sense here because sometimes just getting satisfied with a patch up solution would be a bigger disaster in longer run. As person being here in US for a decade and being in the GC Queue for half a decade, I strongly believe EB2-I is never going to be current anymore and EB3-I is never going to get any spill over from the DV bill if passed in its current format. So the option left here is either take whatever you get and hope for the best OR (EB2 and EB3) together fight/work for the right thing to happen, instead of being silent just because you may be a beneficiary of the current format, though it�s not right. I hope everyone here will agree and accept that the right thing would be EB-3 getting at least 50% of spill over whatever EB-2 gets. IV may not succeed in that effort but IV being silent can never be justified.
    Also Volunteering is something which you do for the benefit of others without any expectation and I really appreciate all the volunteers here for their efforts but, some of them often directly/indirectly pass derogatory comments on non-donors and non-volunteers especially when they differ on views and immediately they ask, how many congress men you met? � Which is inappropriate and it�s like saying either agree with what we say or shut up, if you are a not a volunteer or donor. And nothing wrong in you having a policy like that but in that case you can restrict the write access to only volunteers and donors. I am also totally against any non-donors/non-volunteers making derogatory comments on volunteers/donors as they deserve more appreciation than derogatory comments for what they do.

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  • alexanderthegreat
    10-17 09:34 AM
    Hello everyone,

    Those of you who had gone thru this process may be able to help me. My 7 year old daughter is a US citizen. If my family applies for Canadian PR, do I have to apply for PR for her also?. I have heard that US citizens do not need any permission to live in Canada. Any insight is appreciated.


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  • akred
    06-27 11:58 PM
    That depends what the adjudicator think of her, some believe she was a saint and some think that she was, well, "(boolean) NOT saint" (i.e. anything but saint)... ;)

    maybe she can hit the darned adjudicator in the head with the "holy grail" and sign the form herself... :D

    At that point she can be deported for fraud. Of course USCIS will only wake up and deport her for fraud when the application for citizenship is filed 20 years later.

    09-15 02:17 PM
    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
    Total 30000

    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.

    06-28 08:26 AM