shouldIwait
05-10 05:37 PM
Few responses to Mr. Hunter.
I'm not blind to stereotyping in this forum or elsewhere. It's not you vs. them kinda thing. You ARE stereotyping based upon some TRUE things but it is still stereotyping, isn't it.
Also, you understood some of my comments wrong. All I was saying is that due to big ISV's like TCS/INFY/WIPRO and mushrooms of bodyshops the actual worker gets pennies on a dollar and they keep the booty. So it's not the worker who causes wage depression it's the circumvention of the spirit of law that these companies do which causes it. I say "spirit of law" because they still stay within the legal framework. As far as offshoring is concerned it's a big discussion in itself and forces of capitalism and globalization are at work. None of us can prevent that but we can counter it by moving up in the value chain.
The scenario you described about modus operandi of big Indian ISV's is 100% correct but to generally imply that Indians are 1/5th as good as Americans when it comes to IT (50 member team vs. 10-12 member team) is a supremacist attitude and completely untrue.
It is true that the Indian counterparts are usually of much younger age but rarely substandard for the job. Companies realize that IT is no-longer considered rocket-science and they can save a few bucks. Try to think objectively keeping personal impact aside.
Now regarding overall economic input of immigrants there are issues broader and larger than you mentioned. Some of the smaller points you mentioned are true but you are completely missing the big picture. We can discuss that in a different thread :)
When Bill Gates says best-and-brightest it applies to individuals and not a VISA category, he's not lying. Among the 65K every year you'll find people from all skill levels, cream-of-the-cream to just-about-ok, and a few rotten-apples too. The immigration system is not designed to test skill level. Overall it's old, irrelevant and doesn't help anyone. It needs to be re-designed but unfortunately people are divided on fake lines and ignore the real issues or rather real solutions.
Although you have said it differently but you are right that solution to mine and your problems lie at the same spot, a modern, common-sense, immigration system that promotes best-and-the-brightest (Indian and American) and discourages exploitation.
I'm not blind to stereotyping in this forum or elsewhere. It's not you vs. them kinda thing. You ARE stereotyping based upon some TRUE things but it is still stereotyping, isn't it.
Also, you understood some of my comments wrong. All I was saying is that due to big ISV's like TCS/INFY/WIPRO and mushrooms of bodyshops the actual worker gets pennies on a dollar and they keep the booty. So it's not the worker who causes wage depression it's the circumvention of the spirit of law that these companies do which causes it. I say "spirit of law" because they still stay within the legal framework. As far as offshoring is concerned it's a big discussion in itself and forces of capitalism and globalization are at work. None of us can prevent that but we can counter it by moving up in the value chain.
The scenario you described about modus operandi of big Indian ISV's is 100% correct but to generally imply that Indians are 1/5th as good as Americans when it comes to IT (50 member team vs. 10-12 member team) is a supremacist attitude and completely untrue.
It is true that the Indian counterparts are usually of much younger age but rarely substandard for the job. Companies realize that IT is no-longer considered rocket-science and they can save a few bucks. Try to think objectively keeping personal impact aside.
Now regarding overall economic input of immigrants there are issues broader and larger than you mentioned. Some of the smaller points you mentioned are true but you are completely missing the big picture. We can discuss that in a different thread :)
When Bill Gates says best-and-brightest it applies to individuals and not a VISA category, he's not lying. Among the 65K every year you'll find people from all skill levels, cream-of-the-cream to just-about-ok, and a few rotten-apples too. The immigration system is not designed to test skill level. Overall it's old, irrelevant and doesn't help anyone. It needs to be re-designed but unfortunately people are divided on fake lines and ignore the real issues or rather real solutions.
Although you have said it differently but you are right that solution to mine and your problems lie at the same spot, a modern, common-sense, immigration system that promotes best-and-the-brightest (Indian and American) and discourages exploitation.
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atmercyofdol
07-14 12:28 PM
Anyone knows who sponsors that show?
gccovet
08-07 01:41 PM
Sunny ,
What is your PD???
Sunny_surya,
What is you PD?
I asked this earlier, may be you missed it, so, let me ask you again...
What is your PD.
Regards,
GCCovet
What is your PD???
Sunny_surya,
What is you PD?
I asked this earlier, may be you missed it, so, let me ask you again...
What is your PD.
Regards,
GCCovet
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singhsa3
08-20 10:11 PM
Can you please further explain how the visa flow will work if instead of horizontal flow it is made vertical flow... or you have some other interpretation?
The idea here is to get USCIS to follow the law
Yes, the old system will be restored. Please note that this is the only sure fire way of EB3-I going forward. There is some comments that EB3-I can really only benefit if EB2-I goes current with the current horizontal spill over rules. Such statements are clearly misleading. Eb3-I will not directly be impacted by EB2-I being current. It just allows EB3 to get a lot of numbers which will first be used by EB3-ROW before spilling over into EB3-I.
With this change, we get EB3ROW move ahead faster, it probably would have been C had the rules been followed, and EB3 would have started moving ahead.
The only way for EB3 to move ahead is for EB3-ROW to become current, nothing else will help EB3 beyond the visa recapture (which is iffy at best). If we get USCIS to follow rules, this happens sooner, and EB3-I starts to move sooner. If not, EB3-I shall wait for a long time.
The idea here is to get USCIS to follow the law
Yes, the old system will be restored. Please note that this is the only sure fire way of EB3-I going forward. There is some comments that EB3-I can really only benefit if EB2-I goes current with the current horizontal spill over rules. Such statements are clearly misleading. Eb3-I will not directly be impacted by EB2-I being current. It just allows EB3 to get a lot of numbers which will first be used by EB3-ROW before spilling over into EB3-I.
With this change, we get EB3ROW move ahead faster, it probably would have been C had the rules been followed, and EB3 would have started moving ahead.
The only way for EB3 to move ahead is for EB3-ROW to become current, nothing else will help EB3 beyond the visa recapture (which is iffy at best). If we get USCIS to follow rules, this happens sooner, and EB3-I starts to move sooner. If not, EB3-I shall wait for a long time.
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nish
07-07 09:22 AM
L1Fraud,
Any update on this?
Any update on this?
Robert Kumar
04-03 07:27 AM
Don't know.
Thanks.
Can somebody please give us the link of the document that shows how many applied , yearwise.
Thanks.
Can somebody please give us the link of the document that shows how many applied , yearwise.
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jsb
09-24 03:10 PM
I do not know who recieved my package as the lawyer didn't say anything about it. July 2nd filer. No Receipt Notice yet. I40 appoved. PD - 5th aug 2004.
There is an lud on 28th july on my approved 140.
You are not alone my friend. July 2 is not done yet, although bulletins tell otherwise
There is an lud on 28th july on my approved 140.
You are not alone my friend. July 2 is not done yet, although bulletins tell otherwise
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luckylavs
10-05 10:17 AM
Hi all , can some one tell me what number to call USCIS and what information do i need to provide them... please help me...please send me private message.. i have urgent travel plans and dont have receipts in hand.. .thx
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waitforevergc
05-09 08:35 PM
Thomas:
There is no point preaching things to lunatics like Hunter. Let us just ignore him.
There are a lot of people like him on internet. We cant educate everyone.
Moderators, please block such people in their initial comments in the future.
There is no point preaching things to lunatics like Hunter. Let us just ignore him.
There are a lot of people like him on internet. We cant educate everyone.
Moderators, please block such people in their initial comments in the future.
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simple1
06-16 03:34 PM
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Who actually controls the work? The client.
Regardless of Fixed bid scenarios. The work is actually controlled by the client. You may be responsible for a part of the work.
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I am talking about projects here. The project-sponsor is the client. They control the work.
Not about product implementations for the products that were developed internally inside the visa-sponser's company.
Repeating your quote here
L-1B temporary workers can no longer work primarily at a worksite other than their petitioning employer if the work will be controlled and supervised by a different employer
I have put color coding for better understanding. Please read it again.
This is what I wrote
I hope this clears your confusion.
Who actually controls the work? The client.
Regardless of Fixed bid scenarios. The work is actually controlled by the client. You may be responsible for a part of the work.
--
I am talking about projects here. The project-sponsor is the client. They control the work.
Not about product implementations for the products that were developed internally inside the visa-sponser's company.
Repeating your quote here
L-1B temporary workers can no longer work primarily at a worksite other than their petitioning employer if the work will be controlled and supervised by a different employer
I have put color coding for better understanding. Please read it again.
This is what I wrote
I hope this clears your confusion.
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BharatPremi
10-17 07:48 PM
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Guys,
I need your opinion and advise on this.
Old file - First File:
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current employer:A
EB3-Country: India(Bharat)-RIR-PD:07/2*/2003, I-140 approved - 485/AP/EAD/G-325 A filed on 07/12/2007 - EAD received, Soon FP appointment - NO AP yet - (myself-Primary+3) filing
New file - Second File:
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Future Employer: B
EB2-Country: India(Bharat)-PERM: PD:06/2*/2006,I-140 approved - NO 485 is filed under this yet.
Note: Labor for both applications has similar codes except new filing is based
on "Seniority" and thus EB2.
Now in light of October 2007 visa bulletin prediction given on www.murthy.com, It looks like EB2 may go ahead with comparision to EB3 ( Eb2: may stuck at January 2003 and EB3 May 2001/2) and by reading page 130 to 134 from the following link it looks like Priority date still matters even after filing 485 and your case can go on VISA HOLD SHELF if at the time of adjudication visa number is not available.
http://www.ilw.com/seminars/august2002_citation2b.pdf
Questions:
1) Suppose my EB2 PD (I-140 approved, no 485 filed) become current prior to
my EB3 PD (current employment- 485 is filed under this) and for some
months if I see EB3 may not move ahead what would be the best startegy
out of following?
- PORT (EB2 PD: 06/2*/2006) PD to my current 485 file which is based on
EB3 with PD 07/2*/2003. Can we PORT NEW PD to the file based on OLD
PD? I know OLD PD can be ported to NEW PD but what about reverse
condition?
- File another set (Myself+3) of 485 as new application under EB2 (Future
Employer) mentioning current A# numbers.
- File another set (Myself+3) of 485 as new application under EB2 (Future
Employer) mentioning current A# numbers with PORTING of OLD PD (EB3
PD 07/2*/2003).
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
- BharatPremi
Guys,
I need your opinion and advise on this.
Old file - First File:
-----------------
current employer:A
EB3-Country: India(Bharat)-RIR-PD:07/2*/2003, I-140 approved - 485/AP/EAD/G-325 A filed on 07/12/2007 - EAD received, Soon FP appointment - NO AP yet - (myself-Primary+3) filing
New file - Second File:
---------------------
Future Employer: B
EB2-Country: India(Bharat)-PERM: PD:06/2*/2006,I-140 approved - NO 485 is filed under this yet.
Note: Labor for both applications has similar codes except new filing is based
on "Seniority" and thus EB2.
Now in light of October 2007 visa bulletin prediction given on www.murthy.com, It looks like EB2 may go ahead with comparision to EB3 ( Eb2: may stuck at January 2003 and EB3 May 2001/2) and by reading page 130 to 134 from the following link it looks like Priority date still matters even after filing 485 and your case can go on VISA HOLD SHELF if at the time of adjudication visa number is not available.
http://www.ilw.com/seminars/august2002_citation2b.pdf
Questions:
1) Suppose my EB2 PD (I-140 approved, no 485 filed) become current prior to
my EB3 PD (current employment- 485 is filed under this) and for some
months if I see EB3 may not move ahead what would be the best startegy
out of following?
- PORT (EB2 PD: 06/2*/2006) PD to my current 485 file which is based on
EB3 with PD 07/2*/2003. Can we PORT NEW PD to the file based on OLD
PD? I know OLD PD can be ported to NEW PD but what about reverse
condition?
- File another set (Myself+3) of 485 as new application under EB2 (Future
Employer) mentioning current A# numbers.
- File another set (Myself+3) of 485 as new application under EB2 (Future
Employer) mentioning current A# numbers with PORTING of OLD PD (EB3
PD 07/2*/2003).
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
- BharatPremi
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Robert Kumar
03-31 07:04 AM
If its an April fool Joke we should know on Apr 1st
Otherwise we will know in 2nd week.
Dont think so.
Otherwise we will know in 2nd week.
Dont think so.
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wangwei417
10-29 04:27 PM
Done!
Thanks for providing the template.
folks, this is really easy and critical to everyone. Please take couple minutes and send these letters
Thanks for providing the template.
folks, this is really easy and critical to everyone. Please take couple minutes and send these letters
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01-11 01:46 PM
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java_jaggu
06-26 12:33 PM
Multiple 485 and EAD filing
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Hi,
My wife and I both got our LC approved. She filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently for both of us in Nov.2006 (Nebraska Center), based on her LC. Then I filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently for both of us again in Jan,2007 (Texas Center), based on my LC.
The EADs she applied got aproved pretty quickly. Several days ago, my EAD applications got denied. The denial reason is, we already have approved EAD.
Originally our plan is: My wife will switch to a Finance related job soon (her LC is based on Software job), I will wait for GC. (The reason we still filed for multiple 485 and EAD is that we want to postpone the decision on who should wait for GC). Now I'm totally confused on whether she can use the EAD, and whether I can renew the approved EAD (because they are based on her application).
Any inputs or clarifications will be greatly appreciated.
tkiller
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I really don't know why someone would file the 485/EAD through the spouse when the spouse is planning to change the career field, and you know that you need to be in a similar job description to work on EAD. It almost seems like a no-brainer that the guy in this case should have filed for the 485/AP/EAD.
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Hi,
My wife and I both got our LC approved. She filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently for both of us in Nov.2006 (Nebraska Center), based on her LC. Then I filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently for both of us again in Jan,2007 (Texas Center), based on my LC.
The EADs she applied got aproved pretty quickly. Several days ago, my EAD applications got denied. The denial reason is, we already have approved EAD.
Originally our plan is: My wife will switch to a Finance related job soon (her LC is based on Software job), I will wait for GC. (The reason we still filed for multiple 485 and EAD is that we want to postpone the decision on who should wait for GC). Now I'm totally confused on whether she can use the EAD, and whether I can renew the approved EAD (because they are based on her application).
Any inputs or clarifications will be greatly appreciated.
tkiller
Reply With Quote
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I really don't know why someone would file the 485/EAD through the spouse when the spouse is planning to change the career field, and you know that you need to be in a similar job description to work on EAD. It almost seems like a no-brainer that the guy in this case should have filed for the 485/AP/EAD.
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shahuja
02-05 04:54 PM
hi singhv,
no. VO said.."its approved and you should receive it by courier within a couple of days" now the embassy inquiry centre do not tell me why its delayed..i asked me them is it PIMS or some thing else..they say "sorry maam, we cannot say"
i got no email, no slip, so i dont know if its stuck in PIMS or some checks ???
And if its really NOT PIMS and something else, then how long does one estimate ?? how long could an administrative processing take ? how long could security check take ? how long could name check take ? etc etc..
shahuja
no. VO said.."its approved and you should receive it by courier within a couple of days" now the embassy inquiry centre do not tell me why its delayed..i asked me them is it PIMS or some thing else..they say "sorry maam, we cannot say"
i got no email, no slip, so i dont know if its stuck in PIMS or some checks ???
And if its really NOT PIMS and something else, then how long does one estimate ?? how long could an administrative processing take ? how long could security check take ? how long could name check take ? etc etc..
shahuja
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01-12 09:59 PM
Sent letters to WH and IV califoria address.
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makemygc
07-09 06:40 PM
Time to send pizza then
I'm sure Mr. Gonzalez will not forward it to army. His staff need it badly after working continuously for 48 hrs.
I'm sure Mr. Gonzalez will not forward it to army. His staff need it badly after working continuously for 48 hrs.
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seekerofpeace
10-06 04:40 PM
Guys,
As you know my wife got approved yesterday I received her CPO mail I checked the new funky website of USCIS case status and she was at the last DOT that of card production ordered....so we heaved a sigh of relief.....BTW I was approved on Sept 3rd and I am still at Post Decision Circle....
Today we got another mail from USCIS....Notice mailed welcoming applicant blah blah...you may get card in 60 days barring any ADIT processing blah blah....and her status in that funky website moved backward two holes to "Decision" hole...
Strange ain't it...I hope it does not move backward any further for any of us...
Strange are the ways of USCIS
As you know my wife got approved yesterday I received her CPO mail I checked the new funky website of USCIS case status and she was at the last DOT that of card production ordered....so we heaved a sigh of relief.....BTW I was approved on Sept 3rd and I am still at Post Decision Circle....
Today we got another mail from USCIS....Notice mailed welcoming applicant blah blah...you may get card in 60 days barring any ADIT processing blah blah....and her status in that funky website moved backward two holes to "Decision" hole...
Strange ain't it...I hope it does not move backward any further for any of us...
Strange are the ways of USCIS
sc3
08-21 12:43 PM
Ok, I had hoped not to bite the bait, but I am human, nothing recharges and roils like someone saying "you are EB3, you are worthless compared to US the mighty EB2s".
The misleading continues
1) "VDLRAO" (no disrespect to his prediction capabilities) says EB2 will be current soon, so why are you raising this voice.
Well, if it is going to be current soon enough, then any action to redirect EB1 numbers should not be a cause of concern for EB2s should it? If you are going to become current soon, then it means there aren't many people waiting in the queue.
2) We should support the visa recapture
You all are assuming that EB3 does not support it. Unlike me, most EB3s are very active in calling, contributing and supporting those events. I have personal reservations about asking for a change in law when I am the direct beneficiary (I feel like those big oil companies who use their clout to get laws favourable to them, nothing wrong, just that I dont like to do it). Having said that, I have no problems in asking and demanding that the law be applied as written.
Once I have my GC done with, I intend to write to the representatives that barring progressive experience in the same company rule should be removed, because it is the experience that matters, not where you get it. Why should someone who chooses to be loyal be discriminated against another who has no qualms about his company's future.
3) You dont have the law on your side, USCIS/DOS only implements the law.
Some within EB2 concede that the law is fuzzy, while others claim there is no basis for our campaign here. Well, there was no basis for so many things that IV has accomplished, and yet, most people accept that we are better off in some ways compared to pre-IV. If you believe that we have no basis, then why bother dissing us? We will make ourselves look like fools. If you believe the law is fuzzy, then you should realize that current interpretation is your luck, not your right.
The misleading continues
1) "VDLRAO" (no disrespect to his prediction capabilities) says EB2 will be current soon, so why are you raising this voice.
Well, if it is going to be current soon enough, then any action to redirect EB1 numbers should not be a cause of concern for EB2s should it? If you are going to become current soon, then it means there aren't many people waiting in the queue.
2) We should support the visa recapture
You all are assuming that EB3 does not support it. Unlike me, most EB3s are very active in calling, contributing and supporting those events. I have personal reservations about asking for a change in law when I am the direct beneficiary (I feel like those big oil companies who use their clout to get laws favourable to them, nothing wrong, just that I dont like to do it). Having said that, I have no problems in asking and demanding that the law be applied as written.
Once I have my GC done with, I intend to write to the representatives that barring progressive experience in the same company rule should be removed, because it is the experience that matters, not where you get it. Why should someone who chooses to be loyal be discriminated against another who has no qualms about his company's future.
3) You dont have the law on your side, USCIS/DOS only implements the law.
Some within EB2 concede that the law is fuzzy, while others claim there is no basis for our campaign here. Well, there was no basis for so many things that IV has accomplished, and yet, most people accept that we are better off in some ways compared to pre-IV. If you believe that we have no basis, then why bother dissing us? We will make ourselves look like fools. If you believe the law is fuzzy, then you should realize that current interpretation is your luck, not your right.
TUnlimited
09-16 12:44 PM
My I-140 approved by NSC and my I-485 now pending with NSC. No Texas listed. :D
