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  • BharatPremi
    12-13 02:07 PM
    Discrimination in employment based on nationality is not allowed. However, can we extend the argument to the employment based immigration? We can always choose to take that promotion though we will lose our place in the queue.

    Leaving the question of fairness aside, under the current legal framework my guess is we do not have a case.

    Then fight for changing that constitutinality. Who made it? Why did they make it the way the made it? Slavery was supported legally way back.. If black community might have thought " They do not have a case" as somebody has created the constitution to suit their own need and "within the framework of that legality" "they do not have a case"... then still we may be seeing slaves around.

    I understand your point that we are not yet "citizens"... but for many fair practices society must not differentiate.

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  • snthampi
    07-31 12:01 AM
    Thanks Thampi, people let us post some more avoidance techniques to be used subtle or not, this is a scourge we need to get rid of.
    Keep going man. We are all adults and just trying to be funny. No one needs get upset over this. It is ok if the Amway/Quickstar guys get upset, because they upset us once in a while.

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  • desibechara
    10-09 03:48 PM

    But is it possible to continue to work on TN1 Visa and change jobs and not apply for the GC? Can one continue to do that?


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  • pointlesswait
    09-23 06:30 PM
    there is a "right" time for everything..and now is not! thats all...

    You are right, in times like these immigrants should not be welcomed with open arms so its time for you to pack-up and leave. Visit this website when you reach home and let us know you reached safely... safe travels.


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  • breddy2000
    07-29 01:52 PM
    There are 26 E2 for bombay. Delhi data was for July. Assumption will be around 100 for CP for whole of India.

    Are we not supposed to count dependents with the applications? Or does it mean each individual is treated seperately irrespective of being depenedent in CP?

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  • ita
    03-30 11:02 PM
    Kancha Ilaya(Sonia appointed ) is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies. (Indians on their own have come a long way in reducing these caste discrimination but alas these people won't want that dying)It shouldn't be any surprise if we see bunch of International articles on India's disgusting caste issues soon.

    Rahul Gandhi/Govt of India invites British politician to Amethi on poverty tourism.Putting it in their own words they were trying to show this foreign minister real India (meaning 'sinking India not shining India' or may be they were trying to tell this British guy look we have managed to keep the country at the same state you left it , if anything we took it to another low level).Amethi has been a constituency represented by that family for generations in Priyanka's words. Forget about country they didn't do much good to their own constituency .

    This British guy before he left the country said that Mumbai attacks could have happened because India didn't hand over Kashmir to Pak.He also gave a free although unasked advice ,if such future attacks are not to happen India should reconsider it's stance on Kashmir.

    British media was surprised to see that Rahul Gandhi touted as future PM by the party and Indian media with equal excitement didn't want to comment on foreign affairs.Mumbai issue or anything else.

    Now every country has it's share of it poverty or something else.Can you imagine U.S politician inviting French/German politician to view America's worst and media giving it huge coverage?Just imagine what would happen then.

    Personally I like both Sonia and Rahul, can't doubt their intension of making India better


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  • weasley
    09-23 06:44 PM
    I completely agree with this. USCIS has better date than prior years. PD for October is Jan 2005,the numbers available for first quarter is 750 (approx) and around 700 I485s are in Jan 2005. We will know in Dec whether quarterly spill happens or not.

    The key difference compared to last year is Pre-Adjudication and improved communication between DOS and USCIS.

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  • _TrueFacts
    09-08 10:37 PM
    For all the real estate corruption and money laundering during YSR's regime. Satyam Computers ex boss, Ramalinga Raju should be freshly interrogated and feds should take over his case.


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  • GC08
    02-14 07:28 PM
    a 3-yr I just entered my 4th year of this endless pain..

    I think it should be based on how long they have paid tax (say 5 years). For example, for those who have been legally working for more thena 5 years and paid tax during the period, with labor and I140 approved, they should allow them to file I485 right away. :D

    I always feel allowing illegals become legals is a huge advance for them. For legal H1Bs, the only advance of similar magnitute is giving them GC without any delay (at least within a timeframe comparable to those illegals becoming legals).

    What do you think? :)

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  • vedicman
    01-14 08:46 AM
    I don't see anything wrong PlainSpeak's suggestion but I can't comment on if her suggestion is workable or not. But we can just explain what is right or wrong instead of getting into fight mode.
    How is misleading members not wrong? Check willigetgc's response

    It would be great place to share ideas (good, bad, right, wrong) if those uncivilized response is reduced. The lesser the uncivilized response more the people willing to join hands.
    Sharing ideas are good. But if you looked at plainspeak first post he was pretty much goading members to come after him.

    There are great people like amitjoey who convey the message in more civilized way (as far as I have seen) and help others (its not easy to post 1100+ posts....). I am new to this country and have very less experience and knowledge to share. But I hope one day I can guide/help some people like amitjoey.
    Couldn't agree with you more!

    Reason for me to share my thought is amitjoey, otherwise I would have just gone through the thread and felt bad about this forum for uncivilized comments. I am not into any group yet (Eb2/3) as my comp is not going to sponsor gc as per new policy, so I don't belong to any group (or we can say group who's gc never filed). When I read PlainSpeak's comment I thought she was right and after reading amitjoey's comment I learned another view for this issue. After reading those two comments I understand the issue and why IV took different direction or direction different from PlainSpeak's. But when I continued reading this thread I felt why some educated people with good intentions have bad thoughts and respond to others in uncivilized way. In the whole thread only two comments make's sense to me rest doesn't belong/fit to this forum.
    Plainspeak posted his view, few agreed with him, most disagreed - but he (My traditional upbringing does not allow me to think a girl can be so confrontational with strangers - so I will go on considering plainspeak as a man) kept up with his goading responding to each member. I cannot think of anyone with good intentions spending time to respond to comments that are not worthwhile.......

    Lets get more new members and be civilized to gain confident which will gain more strength to the forum.

    Let me see if I understand PlainSpeak's language:
    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill, knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3 (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)

    3. An exercise to gain trust by misleading!:D

    I wonder why IV core did not come up with this brilliant idea ;)

    My responses are in blue

    My advice to you, this forum gives members a chance to voice their problems and many members help with suggestions and experiences. IV works for relieving our problems - and if their intentions are on our side, we need to help them and not fight amongst us or them. Judge by what the administrators of this org say.


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  • msp1976
    02-13 03:05 PM
    You guys still think it is horizontal. This has been discussed so many times with reference to the law; the note in november 2005 visa bulletin; another lawyer who received statistics in chinees overall approvals for 2006 which were going to be close to 7% and you guys still believe this is a gray area.

    USCIS today is using the vertical flow...I acknowledge that....

    It might be a defendable position in courts ..... My arguement is that the original text of of the law is ambigous enough to mount a challenge...It might not succeed but it is possible to take a shot at it....It is a long shot.....

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  • srikondoji
    12-16 08:38 AM
    I hope this is not our last ditch effort or one of the last chips in our possession to further our goals of Greencard.

    The crisis in united states is not just housing bubble but much more than that. I am not sure if this initiative (linking greencard and purchasing home) will find much traction in government or in medai given the complexity of the mess.
    The currency collapse which we used to discuss is now gathering storm now. The recent runnup in Dollar is peaking now and is in downward trend. Analysts are already up in arms arguing that United states have to take massive debt (assuming China and arab world is ready to give) or they have to print currency to finance their bailouts.



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  • BharatPremi
    07-13 02:04 AM
    And Do you (canadian wanna be) have any clue that to get respected salary and position you will be forced by illiterate Canadians to have "Professional Engineering Certificates"... It will suck blood out of your body for 5 years... So just do not read "Greener Side" of Canadian Immigration... I know it may not be applicable to all but more or less most of will have to face the same music in their careers. My all Canadian friends and relatives want to be Americans.. Only some of them practically could proceed for that.. After some stage of life it becomes hard to move families.. That is the reason they are facing now to take decision and simultaneously do not want to live in Canada anymore.. If you have 101 fever it will take 1 month to have Doctor's appointment... GST.. Higher taxes.. statistically there are chances "Most of members of this forum - Canadian Wanna Be" will have less promotions and/or increments in salary eventhough they will find themselves most skilled wherever they will work. Top posts would be the dream for most of you guys unless you start your own business.. if you understand what I am trying to tell... In USA it is not that way.... Having said this I can not say that everybody will experience the same what I am trying to portray but most fo them will.

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  • perm2gc
    01-23 07:28 PM
    Finally he got what he deserved..I wish that US won't deport him..He should spend rest of his life in Federal Prison only.If he goes back to india(AP)..he will open one more company and do the same things.His uncle is famous telugu actor and was a member of parliament he will get all the help he needs.I pray to god that he should be in US federal Prision for rest of his life...


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  • ksircar
    08-21 09:43 PM
    My daughter's current AP is valid till 10/3/2008. She has applied for AP renewal and finger printing is done. Now she needs to attend a course abroad starting later this month and will return to USA on 12/13/2008. Can she leave USA with current AP and return using new AP?

    Please advise.


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  • fide_champ
    08-17 11:17 AM
    You nailed it brother! SRK is just another moron who thinks he owns the world! All things being equal, there is no reason for him to get any special treatment at all -- he is no diplomat or a guest of this country. If there was something wrong with his luggage and/or profile that made the CBP flag him and question him, I don't see anything wrong with that. I can't agree more with you on the stupid "VIP" culture that sits deep in the roots of these glorified-beyond-reality idiots.

    And then there are people here comparing India and the US...what the heck! This is America and they can do whatever they like to keep it safe...who are we to say that our "star" deserves better treatment when they don't spare their own people? :mad::rolleyes:

    This is just a case of another innocent civilian getting affected for no reason. SRK has travelled to US many times and USCIS has his finger print and knows who he is. Still just bcs his last name was khan, they found reason to interrogate him for 2 hours. I just don't see any logic in what they did. We are not saying they should not have all these security checks but it should be consistent and should have some meaning.


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  • eyeswe
    07-21 04:33 PM
    I think we have met somewhere OR I have seen you somewhere...
    Would you like to be financially independent?
    Are u from XYZ Engg College in Mumbai

    The Amway cheer ...

    ... There is lot of excitement in this room with X,Y,X, A etc.. and this excitement is going all the way to P, Q, R on the phone.. Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyyy " and folks jump around to show the excitement

    Needless to say I have been in several Amway bait situations. My room mates were Amway folks and we use to have several meetings at my place -- upline, downline used to be the manthra...

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  • bobby
    07-04 12:51 PM
    My suggestions:
    "Door slams shut for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants in the US"
    "US closes the door for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants"
    "US isolates highly skilled legal immigrants"
    "Broken Legal immigration system harmful to US competitiveness"
    "Legal Immigration system in shambles"

    I had started working on a letter myself but will wait for's my initial scribbles fyi....

    Law abiding skilled legal immigrants persecuted by government misstep

    On 7/2/07 the door was slammed shut for many skilled legal immigrants without notice while only 2 weeks earlier these same legal immigrants had been notified that the final stage of their immigration i.e.: green card processing, could begin. This occurred not because these legal immigrants had not followed the rules but rather due to scandalous government actions. These actions have caused outrage & devastation amongst skilled legal immigrants and immigration attorneys alike who question the government�s credibility and the government�s disregard for precedent and the law. The results may be costly litigation and a class action lawsuit by the governing body, the American Immigration Lawyers Association against the government.

    Much focus has been placed on illegal immigrants in this country. Yet, the broken immigration system holds ominous consequences for skilled legal immigrants which the US needs to remain competitive and at the forefront of technological and medical development. The obsolete immigration laws do not address this need and government missteps further contribute to the persecution of law abiding skilled legal immigrants who wait patiently in line and live with severe restrictions for many years while their immigration cases are processed.

    ....I was going to continue with information on the visa bulleting and IV etc.....

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  • qvadis
    02-13 06:44 PM
    Before AC21, the spill over goes vertically.
    After AC21, the spill over should go horizontally.

    Now ROW experts, post your comment for this hypothitical example ..

    Lets assume there are 100 unused visas in EB2 catagory in a calender quarter. Worldwide EB damand is more than 140,000. Now, how will you assisn those numbers if it is before AC21 period and if it is after AC21 period.

    If you say in both cases it goes to EB3-ROW, then we are not stupid to listien.

    (a) INA 202(a)(3) states that the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) [...] exceeds the number of qualified immigrants [...] (2) shall not apply [...]. In your case, there are no excess visas available for FB immigrants.

    (b) INA 202(e) Special Rules for Countries at Ceiling. requires that additional visas are distributed according to the world-wide distribution across FB and EB categories. Of the 100 unused visas 77 would have to be alloted to FB, and only 22 to EB categories. Assuming a 1/3 distribution in EB categories EB1, EB2, EB3, 7 would go to EB2.

    If USCIS cannot follow this rule, those 100 visas would be unused for that fiscal year.

    With AC21, the 100 can be assigned to oversubscribed countries, if Visas are available, ie. demand in all categories is less than supply. With EB3-ROW retrogressed, that is not the case.

    Just the way I see it....

    06-16 03:07 PM
    Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.

    This attitude was the reason, it took India a lot of time to get freedom from British. Then lot many nobel indians thought British invasion was good for India..

    09-23 05:35 PM
    FIRST lets just send out the emails as requested by IV (Yes, this is OFFICIALLY ENDORSED BY IV initiative)
    We will have all the time in the world to discuss the details.

    OK... I support the initiative because it will remove some people ahead of me in line. However, I bought a house last week with 3% downpayment on FHA loan, and now how can I justify writing an email with the draft that urges for GCs only for those who paid 20% downpayment?

    Can you give me some thoughts on this so that I can make my selfish mind to agree on writing this email to congress?