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  • akred
    02-20 12:40 AM
    How much investment is required to do this using the L1-A? This appears to be a better option than the EB-5 where money is tied up for years.

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  • desi3933
    07-13 11:19 AM
    I know people who got their GC in 7 months from the date they filed PERM. and then there are many people getting GCs every month. There are both good stories and bad stories to tell about getting GC in US.

    There were times when H1 quota never reached the limit during the whole fiscal year, now they get used in just 2 days. This mess in GC process is a result mainly due to our own actions (temporary workers and consulting companies hiring temporary workers). Do you think majority of us once we get GC, stay with the consulting company that filed for our GC? When a consulting company files for PERM, they already have a foreign national working under H-1B in that position. So where is the real intent to hire an American when some foreigner is already working at that position?

    This employment based GC is a way for us foreigners to immigrate to US easily at one point. Now due to our extreme usage and abuse of this process, there are genuine people who are being sponsored to immigrate to US are also suffering. In a true employment GC scenario, the company should be desperate to keep you for a long time (more than 6 years after H-1B is maxed) for your valuable skills that they were unable to find in others. But in most GC cases, looks like we temporary workers are more desperate than our employers for the GC? aren't we? Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?

    Do not put all the blame on US immigration system, the majority of the blame should fall on us and the companies who are helping us to get GCs when our cases are not based on genuine sponsors.

    Just speak for yourself, Mr. Hathi Ghora.

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  • NNReddy
    06-15 07:52 PM
    I am certainly hoping that I will get by EOY 2011. It's more than hope, I feel pretty confident that by that time I should get it. Just mark my words, come back on dec 31, 2011 and check with me. You have to believe before you get it. Have faith guys. Sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can!!!!

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  • msp1976
    02-18 09:45 PM
    Brother; I am also an immigrant. At high levels; I think there should be no quota on employment base.

    I would say Amen to that....

    The whole issue of asking for I-485 without priority date comes from the 'spouse not able to work' issue......
    Once 485 can be filed....Spouse can obtain work authorization and everything falls into place because of the derivative benefits of I-485......
    You see if the wait for GC was just 2/3 one would ask for the 485 without PD provision.....
    But how long can I keep telling my well educated spouse( Bachelors degree in computer science..MS in progress) to put her career on hold ??
    There are cases of marriages falling apart because of this issue...
    Now United states calls herself 'land of opportunity' and 'defender of family values'..... What about keeping our families intact....??


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  • crazyghoda
    10-16 11:38 AM
    A lot of EB2 folks are getting excited about getting the spillover from EB1 and EB2 ROW but has anyone contemplated that lots of EB3 ROWs will now start at looking at porting their dates to EB2 just as most people from EB3 India are?

    Boy, I sure wish I was a lawyer! If this system remains as screwed up for another 20 years, I am surely sending my kid to law school :D

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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 04:36 PM
    Hmm.. so yesterday we were buddies on the other thread (at least you made it out to be for the sake of your arguments) and today I am part of the "enemy" because I am speaking sense and not rhetoric? I think I saw that coming.

    By the way, I don't think you won ANYONE over so far. Keep trying...
    Hmm.. so yesterday we were buddies on the other thread (at least you made it out to be for the sake of your arguments) and today I am part of the "enemy" because I am speaking sense and not rhetoric? I think I saw that coming.
    You have been called Myfriend by me in all the posts in all the messages (I know i slipped in between but if you refer the messages i also did apolozise for calling some one a Bigot and Idiot). Now what i cannot understand is that you have never had the courage to so the same and are keeping up the same tone. No matter it si ok becasue to agrre you were wrong and apolozie needs more courage then anyone would know

    What enemy are you referring to. I never called anyone on IV my enemy (and i can prove it by checking my previous post). The only place i used the word enemy was when i said that if you guys consider me your enemy you need to check all my posts to see how i have been in this forum from 2006 helping people when i can and Getting help when i needed it.

    So you saw WHAT coming. What you actaully see coming is a bright light down a dark tunnel and when it gets closer there is a boom. That is when you wake up and smell the roses (So that there is no more misunderstanding and since it pains me to see your angry post again i will explain that what i mean is that you will realize that i am not your enemy). Of course there is no chance of you agreeing with me and that is ok. As long as you realize that i am not your enemy we are good. Atleast that would stop the abuse.

    Oh i think i missed that part of sense and not rhetoric. Well it is like this my friend if you are speaking sense and not rhetoric it is good for you. What should be clear is when you speak sense (which by the way is always the way to go) i can choose to not agree with you and that should not blow you mind off and get you angry. Something similar to what i say when you abuse me and say that i am wrong and go all ballastic on me. Try it it will work out better for everyone

    By the way, I don't think you won ANYONE over so far. Keep trying...
    Since you are a junior member i will let this mistake slide through (But do not feel bad there are some senior members out here with the same statement which i must say is very surprising).
    Unlike others i am not here to convert people to my point of view and win some one over to my side.

    This is a forum and there are no sides (Actually there are so many to sides to count lets go with no sides). In a forum there is consensus and any decision is made on consensus. For forum members to come to a consensus they need to know what they are agreeing upon and to need to know people need to discuss. Not every idea wil work out and not every disucssion wil lead to a consensus, but as i told before that is the beauty of it.

    Hope i was able to answer you satisfactorily and of course if you were not looking for an answer becasue you were just being angry i hope you sleep on it tonight and come back tommorow because my my friend all the junior members of today are the key persons of IV tommorow (Everyone else Please do not take that literally i mean in the future and NO i am not inciting anyone)
    So tommorow if i call you my friend again if i see an reply from you which not abusive (It is ok to NOT agree with me. That is your god given right) i for one wil be very happy

    Please remember that does not mean i converted you (Well actually that would indeed be a conversion from a abusive person on the forum to a person who listens to all sides with calm) but that is another battle


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  • NKR
    02-12 01:04 PM

    In the past any leftover numbers from undersubscribed countries were being given to the oversubscribed countries in the final quarter of the year (Jul-Sept), That's how so many of indians and chinese got their GCs over last 4-5 years.

    My question is, is that still the policy of the USCIS? Will USCIS use the leftover numbers from ROW for India/China.

    The possibiliy of having quite a few of leftover numbers is high as ROW is current for EB2. That might bail out, to some extent, EB2 India.

    You of course have to count the effect of new memorandum about FBI Name check into this mix.



    No left overs from ROW to POW (this is what I am feeling right now with EB2 being unavailable)..

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  • chantu
    03-30 01:57 PM
    Yes...We had them in power for five years. It was a joke. India was Shining and we had to wear sun glass.

    I am not supporting the congress party. I am only supporting the MMS. To me, he is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarr better than Mr.Advani or Mayavathi

    SNathan, I know you are supporting MMS and not congress. But remember, it is not MMS govt it is congress govt. MMS is just an executive who will implement his boss's decisions. It happened during Narasimha Rao. It was Rao and not MMS who brought economy reforms. Also, India Shining was flop show and we had to wear sun glasses, but last 5 years of UPA was such a economic disaster that now even if we remove glasses we can see nothing but darkness.

    Also please consider that during UPA rule, India's loss due to terrorism was next to Iraq. As Narendra Modi says, even if you are rich, own houses and cars and happy in life...but if you are not sure that at the end of day you will return home safely or not, then this money and richness is of no use.


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  • gonecrazyonh4
    03-16 12:23 PM
    All the people in the piple line are saved, but atleast it will prevent further misuse of this loophole.

    There should be some enquiry or auditing done on the old LC substituion cases and green cards revoked for those whose received theirs illegally and those visa numbers added back (wishful thinking).

    Any auditing done on these cases would reveal lots of scams and possibily avert others from being unscrupulous.

    Its so unfair that people jumb ahead of the que for upto 5 years using LC substitution.

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  • poorslumdog
    09-04 12:19 PM
    You are showing your contribution in all your postings. Don't have any shame???
    your left hand should not know what your right hand is doing(giving)
    It is typical for many Indians to put their name in cars (even here) and their contribution to temples to be anounced in public address system and put names on any things which they are donated.
    You need to change the style, if you are in Rome, behave like Romas.

    Answer the question directly...Dont give all these crap.

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  • eastindia
    07-26 02:18 PM
    I have been to just one of their meetings in bay area and found it to be a bit childish and full of fake people, people trying hard to portray themselve to be your best friend when in reality they are not

    It is a selfish world and nobody is your true or best friend. Amway or no Amway.


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  • chintu25
    02-13 11:00 AM
    The issue is that people speak big here - but run away when asked to come forward. How do we trust 35K members who have tons of excuses for not doing anything for themsleves and blaming IV and questioning IVs credibility?

    Also another point in your response that said do we trust .....

    I ask do we have a choice ... to not trust.

    Trust is a strong word.

    IV is based on trust and common goals I think

    All the members on this forum have atleast some TRUST and Faith in IV otherwise they wouldnt be here .....Maybe they are fearful of coming out in the open but like I said I am sure they will unite to take action under the IV umbrella

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  • tonyHK12
    01-14 09:02 AM
    PlainSpeak has a new sock puppet account called actaccord who has no choice but to support him/her. how many more accounts did gcperm create who don't donate ot participate?
    Guys lets not waste our time on manipulative salespeople.
    In cases like PlainSpeak we need a background check for free members posting more than 10 messages a day, not only charge them.
    I agree this member has been inciting people to start fighting with him/her and into arguments, and playing a emotional manipulative card by pretending to be a woman. did you take acting classes at a dollar store, its so fake and cheap?
    plainspeak is just trying to keep negative threads alive and incite more in-fighting.


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  • roseball
    01-13 04:43 PM
    Is this some thing needs to pass or in proposal or already effected since the date they published on the website?

    I have not ready the doc.

    This is neither a proposal nor a bill that needs to go through the process. Its a memo to the USCIS service centers providing clarity on whats an employer-employee relationship means for a H1 petition to be considered for approval. The memo claims there was no clarity on what constitutes a fair employer-employee relationship and provides guidance to the USCIS service centers to follow the memo in processing all H1 applications. So technically, I would assume it is effective on the date it was released.

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  • srikondoji
    07-03 09:50 PM
    Under the section "Why does it hurt?

    Lawyers who charged upwards of $2000 for filing will not refund the service fee, so candidates have to pay again when dates become current in future.

    The biggest loss is the trust, coz, next time people will not believe these mid month bulletins at all as they can come around anytime and revise the dates. So, applicants will always have to live in fear untill they receive the receipt.

    I am trying an outline for sending to media + lawmakers + ...

    The following is a very rough draft without reading some of the letters posted in the thread. I will read the posts tomorrow and polish it by tomorrow evening. I will need everyone's input since I don't know all the issues.

    Retrogression in GC process.
    What happened

    USCIS announced at the time the forms were due.
    Applicants started filling forms 2-3 weeks before July 2.
    Applicants changed their schedules to submit forms.

    Advantages of EAD + AP
    Don't know all!

    Travel without visa -> saves Embassy overhead.
    Spouse can work.
    Can switch job.

    Why does it hurt

    Medical will not be valid after 1 year.
    Rejected June filers can not file.
    June filers did not file because they thought they will file in July.
    Fees more then doubling
    Name checking (which can take 1+ year) done in parallel with waiting for GC #.
    Load balancing for USCIS.
    USCIS which is supported 90% by application fee needs to care for applicants.
    Very little chance of legislative relief for a looong time.


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  • mihird
    10-09 04:24 PM
    what if both husband & wife get jobs and come here on TN vsia, then how does TD visa apply because both are working? is that possible for both to work in US without one getting into this TD tangle?


    You won't get into the TD tangle similar to not getting into the H4 tangle if both are qualified, intending to work and qualify for their respective TNs..

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  • STAmisha
    10-03 10:28 PM
    1. You need to submit original transcripts and notarised copies of degree certs

    2. I requseted my current employer to give it. I quoted that I need them for applying to university

    3. I did my pictures from wolf camera. I took the photo instructions to them. They made exactly like that.

    I just got my PR approved and I got my passports back with visas.

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  • Lasantha
    12-14 04:20 PM
    Well said !!!

    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:

    07-29 12:21 AM
    I presume the decrease in labour filing in 2008 might be a possibility due to the offshore Indian companies which shifting to H1B sponsorship instead of L1 sponsorship. Because most of the L1s being rejected with these companies recently. So they switching to H1 sponsorship. And obviously they normally dont sponsor GC. So this is just my thinking on why the labor filings decreased in 2008 compared to 2007.

    There is the added restriction that the employer has to now pay for PERM. SOme employers may have some way of working around this, but it definitely has an impact in reducing the number of applications.

    02-13 10:11 AM

    I know in the past many times it was debated -- why people do not support? Let me put forth what I feel.

    Effort put by IV is very commendable. But the beneficiary of IV work (mostly) do not give importance to Green Card. That is what I think based on talking to multiple people and that is what we see from the % participation of people for various fruitful effort put forth by IV. Most of them say they do not care if they get GC or not. In their heart of heart they may but not too much.

    Other reason I can think of is -- There could be doubt in minds of many people of IV strength. The day IV gets some success, people will rally behind IV for a while. And that is the scenario outside world too. See the stock price. If the company is doing good, stock price goes up. The day one bad news comes, stocks falls down. Take the presidential election. You can very well make out that contribution by company or people is proportional to candidate wins. If you are loosing, contribution will dry out very fast. I am not saying that candidate will not have supporter but that would be less in number. Take N.T. Rama Rao case. The day Naidu ditched him and others followed him, no officials gave importance to NTR.

    Believe me, in my office or outside, I have talked to every Indian. And not one comes back n discusses with me about IV.

    I strongly feel IV is doing a commendable job with some dedicated contributors.

    Well - Thats what I have noticed, but people go nowhere nor do they do anything for themselves. More than interest, I think people do not want to get into these things, no one wants to take unwanted risks - as thats how people percieve it. A lot of people feel IVs protocols are tough - I don't think askig people to send letters is tough.

    Talking about organization's successes - IV is not a software company attracting people to buy shares or seek advantage - for the nth time - this is not a software or IT project or a wall street financial. WSe must come out of that mind sets.

    AMAN KAPOOR, JAY PRADHAN, HIMANSHU and everyone who are on the forefront are JUST ORDINARY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE HERE. the idea behind IV is to provide a support network. If people want to see success - they HAVE to be a part of it. The efforts of such organizations is not to make profits and then sell shares and perform well and then make people join it, it is to provide with a platform where people can help themselves.

    We are having issues - green card delays - lets think of it as an ailment that needs to be cured. Now lets do something about it. Lets go to a doctor - a doctor does not guarantee that they will cure u but gives you advice, treats you and gives you medicine and asks you to follow certain protocols. That is exactly what IV is.

    Our primary issue is in our thought process. We want to do everything, we want everything in the world BUT we do not want to stand up and rise in unity. We want to blame IV leaders saying they are rude and pushy. We come up with discussion threads saying we must do this we must do that and finally we see these discussions just getting buried.

    Good examples of how communities thrive anywhere in the world are the Jewish community and the Patel community. The only reason they have succeeded is because they believe in themselves and their cause - they are all over the world and are united, they have managed to make their lives easier by uniting for their causes.

    Look at us - if green card is delayed - we say - I dont care about it, India is rising - but are we going there? No way - no one who says "India is rising" will go - in fat they will be the first to apply for any immigration benefit.

    Why are we individually so highly skilled and intelligent and capable but collectively so naive? Why do we always want others to do it for us? is it because if there is any opposition the active ones will be affected and we can escape? is it cowardice that stops us from being united?

    What is success? How can we achieve success? Why are we finding excuses for not doing our part? Why do we always want to praise others but not do something?