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  • Alabaman
    05-10 05:25 PM
    Dont also forget that the points you need to make for the Canadian system is reviewed periodically. It can go up or down based on the need for skilled immigrants. This way they control the numbers.Then, live in Canada as a PR for 3 years and you are citizen. That is what I call a defined PATH. Something you can work towards... it also serve as an incentive for not towing the illegal route!!

    Live responsibly and legally in the United States for 15 years you can still be "kicked out"...employer petition is bondage my friend... There should be an earned path towards AT THE LEAST permanent residency, if not citizenship. Why would most people bother if it is almost impossible to achieve this through a legal path??? Easy solution? FRAUD!





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  • alterego
    07-25 05:50 PM
    Yeah Ron Gotcher is speculating, but there is some credibility to what he is saying. He did predict the rapid movement of PDs toward the end of the year, in fact at one point he was extremely optimistic more than what happened to date. So he did have some insight into the inner workings (or rather non-workings!) of the USCIS. He also openly shared his interaction with Charlie Oppenheim.
    This is why people should not get so excited now. What EB2I got is a little hope, for most it will be false hope, a select few have green hope, but we will only know them by Sept. in retrospect.
    For the rest of us it will be back to the drawing board, oops message board. My feeling is things are likely to be somewhere between the extremely pessimistic projections of Ron Gotcher and the extremely optimistic projections of VLRao.
    I suspect the PD will move back to the April 2004 cutoff and then move forward slowly as spillover allows, so in other words at a rate faster than in the past. I stand by my view that we will need most of next year and perhaps some of 2010 spillover to quench the thirst of EB2I and C.

    I don't think the point Ron made that if everything was current it would take 5 plus years for USCIS to clear the back log is correct. If it really is the case then we are more badly screwed than any of us realise and it goes totally against the statistics the USCIS has been leaking about the number of pending cases. Which many of us have number crunched already.





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  • copsmart
    09-24 08:10 AM
    This is not fair and good idea. what about people waiting in line for years and invested their money elsewhere because of this green card delays or those who do not have enough money and job in this market situation. All of the sudden you are brining this idea. This is not fair. This is kind of buying green card. There is a investment based green card category available for that. I request you to go through that channel if you are rich. Not all employment based green card seekers are rich. Please keep that in mind.

    thanks,
    aps


    You are not buying Green Card, you are buying home which you will eventually buy at some point down the road.
    I agree with Nixstor�s idea and I fully support it.

    Even if the proposal doesn�t work, it would at least give some awareness to the lawmakers that expediting EB green cards would pump lot of money into this country�s economy. Plus, it�s a great selling point for representatives like Lofgren, who is trying to help us by defending 100s of amendments from anti-immigrants like King and Smith.

    Not all EB GC seekers are rich, but they are rich enough to afford for a home.
    So please refrain from posting negative comments.

    BTW, feel free to give me red or call me jacka## like some other coward did.





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  • hopefulgc
    02-12 08:40 PM
    Poll results thus far: 201Yes 36No
    Wow.. guess who is unpopular around these parts :)

    As suggested by many, its time to find out what we can get together as far as commitment goes.

    I am a lowly member. While I have raised this issue, I think there is definitely someone else here better than me at leading this issue & getting people together. So if the moderators can allow members willing to step forward and help out with this, to have edit permissions on this thread, that would be help

    We may have different school of thoughts, but we are all still IV. No matter what we do, it is more important for us to be united and not let an issue like this cleave us. It would be nice to hear where the IV leadership stands on this and what kind of support can be expected.


    Can the moderators please modify the poll to be the following or add another poll to this thread. I don't seem to have the requisite permissions.

    Q) Do you commit to participate in a class action lawsuit against USCIS
    Options:
    1) I am willing to commit $10-$20 needed for the initial consultation ($600-$1000)
    2) Yes. I am willing to commit $500
    3) Yes. I'm willing to be a plaintiff ( full name and full contact info required)
    4) Yes. I'm willing to commit $500 and become a plaintiff as well
    5) No. I don't think it will work


    More info:
    ----------------------------------------------
    What: Lawsuit against USCIS

    Why: Possibly the only near term solution to retrogression. 218,759 visas are available for recapture and those numbers were lost due to systematic agency delays and bad policies (i.e. name check). The terms of settlement would include RECAPTURE OF LOST VISAS along with recovery of cost of litigation. Apparently, about 50 asylees have filed a similar lawsuit to challenge the retrogression in their category.

    Who: All thos who are willing to make this change. You indicate your willingness and support by saying 'Yes' in the poll above. The poll above is just a headcount. We are hoping we can count on you for support.

    How: We can kick this off with an initial consultation with an attorney. A $$ collection will soon be organized depending on the support expressed in the poll.

    Can we do it? Yes... If we can come to this great country with just 2 bags in our hands and create a life for us here... we can totally do this.

    NOTE: IV core forever rocks in our books for what they did relating to July 2nd. IV's agenda cannot be discounted. We are all part of IV and it would be very nice to get direction from them on how can take this further correctly. We will see members who do not agree with our point of view. The least we can do is attempt to understand their point of view.


    Great info posted by member lazycis related to this:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=222939#post222939
    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_annualrpt07__June_11_2007_section3e_untimel yprocessing.pdf

    Original Post follows:
    ----------------------------------------------
    Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:

    The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK.
    The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get.

    As a community we will need to become a PR nightmare for govt. officals... simply being an inconvenience is not going to cut it... we will have to become a "a cactus that is stuck in the colon".

    USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
    This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.

    By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE!

    We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.



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  • BharatPremi
    07-13 11:49 AM
    All I'm saying is, there's good and bad everywhere, and Canada, always rates highly.

    Like you however, I'm here because I like it here. Frankly, after Canada, the weather in California is too hard to give up :)

    In the end, as you say, it's all objective.

    And who rates Canada highly? That requires a different forum for debating but I am just giving you the hint that it is international scam to rate it high.. That is the subject of politics and we would not start debating that at least on this forum..





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  • kuhelica2000
    02-15 04:33 PM
    The reason we have greater supply of workforce in IT from one specific country is not because of skills or talents. Almost every IT workers from ROW and China came to the US as a foreign student after TOEFL, GMAT, GRE, internship and only then landed a job in IT. Whereas the preponderence of IT workers from India came here through L1/B1/H1 sponsorship through bodyshops. Attending school, preparing for generalized tests requires time, money and patience. This is one big factor why the supply curve is skewed.

    Who is preventing people of ROW for applying H1b or Green card EB ? Employers look for availability of talent not for country of origin and anyone who competes in the global market wins. If ROW countries have less people with marketable skills or less people who want to work outside their countries,it is not the problem of Chinese or Indians. There is no logic with Employers being forced to wait for visa numbers to comply with diversity. There should be a FIFO system without any country of birth barriers. USCIS wastes more annual visa numbers due to these country caps. Lets make these guys fine tune this immigration system which is actually against the free market capitalist principles of this country.



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  • vinzen
    08-18 09:09 PM
    I usually just browse through these forums and I really appreciate the effort put in by the organizers. But this thread gave me an urge to respond and perhaps talk.

    First of all, SRK is just a normal human, not a God. The TSA has even questioned many American celebrities. SRK is just a guy with Khan as last name. TSA is not going to take chances and will make sure they do what is needed to protect America. And SRK probably acted like a monkey again and annoyed the TSA guys so they held him up for 2 hours. OK, just kidding. But thing is, Indian government if anything should take a lesson from it. In india if you are SRK or Sanjay Dutt, there are no lines for you..any where. Indians should get angry at that, not this that just happened in the USA. And for God's sake, why would you even want to sympathesize with a character like SRK who has destroyed the indian movie industry?

    Now don't tell me I am a traitor. I love India, I love America. I live in America because I like living in America and I have gotten used to the comfort and lifestyle. This doesnt mean that I hate India.

    And to the guy who thinks that americasn think Indians are slumdogs or thrid class citizens...please go to india and free up the line for the rest of us. Its your belief that they think you are a slumdog. Perhaps you come across that way to them. Indians are more notorious when it comes to "grading" people based on their color or status and if a few rednecks in America did this to you, don't stereotype the entire country.

    Enjoy the life. Life is good. In America and in India. Long wait for the GC? Yes it is a b**ch, but why have you rest your entire life on a decision by USCIS. Enjoy and take risks and blow your money on good things in life...even if you dont get the GC, on your flight back to India you will at least be proud of the fact that you enjoyed your stay in America. Go out, meet people, meet beautiful girls, eat good food, drink whiskey, watch movies, go hiking...so many things to do guys. And if you dont get the GC, tell your friends and family about the stuff you did in America.

    Don't ever be that Indian guy in the office. Be a smart global citizen.





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  • at0474
    12-13 11:35 AM
    Discrimination in employment based on nationality is not allowed. However, can we extend the argument to the employment based immigration? We can always choose to take that promotion though we will lose our place in the queue.

    Leaving the question of fairness aside, under the current legal framework my guess is we do not have a case.

    --I think, per country quota system was framed with diversification as underlying principle, not discrimination.

    Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.

    If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.

    This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.



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  • TomPlate
    07-03 09:41 PM
    Can somebody let me know, what are final conclusion.





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  • poorslumdog
    05-03 01:21 AM
    in this thread... last 1o posts are about newtoearth...

    people will take peosonally and call names when they can't argue with facts...

    if you can talk on the issue lets discuss else (I know this is what you want when you know that you don't have any facts to support you...)
    What is relationship to my ID and Attack on Indian Army by Eelam Guys, Real Stupid ...
    ... I have been so non popular only aravas browsing the thread...

    Hey you know what..
    There are many Indian Languages top of you in population in India or in rest of the world
    Hindi
    PANJABI
    Bengali
    Telugu
    all of the above comminities are living all over the world.. But no one made any noise...
    Now you think.. where the problem is .. Every body mingled with locals...
    But if any one sees Singapore, Malasia, or SL. you know ...
    Enough...
    I am out of this disscussion if some one is talking it personally

    What about Hindi guys are kicked out in asam and Mumbai. Malasiya, Singapore and SL have tamil population and thats why the noise is.

    Basically you are a singala guy in this forum for long time and created this id to today to fight with tamils. Because no other indian guy will call tamil as arava...In fact we hear it for the first time and no one knows or cares what it means.



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  • Legal
    07-24 07:33 PM
    http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456&page=8


    #78 07-07 12:43 PM
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    Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008
    Posts: 13


    Re: Visa Bulletin answers and other isssues

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    Hi Ron.

    Any predictions for Aug-08 visa bulletine.

    Thanks.

    guchi472000
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    #79 07-07 01:30 PM


    Re: Visa Bulletin answers and other isssues

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    I suspect there won't be much change from the July bulletin.
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  • NolaIndian32
    10-29 05:09 PM
    This makes sense, exempt those who can buy a house or continue to own a house from the current VISA bulletin. Is this feasible, who knows!?!

    Giving GC's for buying home seems toomuch biased and benefits only a subset of EB, and totally shifts the basis of the EB category.

    On the other hand, if their visas can be exempted from the visa numbers(annual quota), but still tied to the visa dates being current for their priority dates, this will benefit the entire community and law makers can justify the approach without stiff oppositions, if any. To me this feels lot more reasonable and everyone(EB applicants) will evenly benefit from this.

    Almost 20-30% of the Eb appl. from 2001-2005 should be already in a position to buy or bought a home. That should help dates move faster for older dates.

    Just a thought. But this alone will NOT resolve all our issues and backlogs. Just speedsup the date movement in a steadily manner.



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 11:26 AM
    If you and other who have problems with this thread, don't like this discussion than why do you guys bother to come on this thread, just ignore it....

    Right on point again by vivid_bharti,

    How does deleting this thread improve immigration?Does deleting this thread bring back YSR? If some people are discussing a topic, let them do so..if you have point contribute a line or 2 to it.

    I rephrase: The reason we even discuss these things here other than immigration is because we have immigrated and we have a common bonding.





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  • mallu
    02-15 07:00 PM
    ....
    H4 people going to college is just a miniscule compared to the number of desi students who come here with a good GRE and GMAT scores.
    People would like to see India as land of snake charmers, cows blocking roads etc.
    They can't digest IITians coming to MIT, Stanford etc. :-)



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  • sbabunle
    04-29 12:31 PM
    That means---> Once the labor is approved you have to use it in 45 days.
    ie apply for 140 in 45 days or LC is expired...I'm glad they did not propose to file I485 in 45 days :D

    I think 45 days is too short. Since LC cannot replaced, it cannot be used for anyone else. So I dont understand why they need an expiry date too...At lease a LC should be valid for 6 months.

    But we have to wait and see what the final rule is. There may be some changes fromt he proposed rule.

    babu



    Can you anyone tell what the lines highlighted below in blue means ?

    ************************************************** ******

    RIN: 1205-AB42 Agenda Cycle: 200610

    Title: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity

    Abstract: The Department of Labor proposed changes to reduce the incentives and opportunities for fraud and abuse related to the permanent employment of aliens in the United States. Among other key changes, the Department is eliminating the current practice of allowing the substitution of alien beneficiaries on applications and approved labor certifications. DOL proposed to further reduce the likelihood of the submission of fraudulent applications for the permanent employment of aliens in the United States by proposing a 45-day deadline for employers to file approved permanent labor certifications in support of a petition with the Department of Homeland Security. The Final Rule expressly prohibits the sale, barter, or purchase of permanent labor certifications or applications, as well as related payments. The proposed rule also addresses enforcement mechanisms to protect program integrity, including debarment with appeal rights. These amendments would apply to employers using both the Application for Alien Employment Certification (Form ETA 750) or the Application for Permanent Employment Certification (Form ETA 9089).

    ************************************************** *******
    i got the above info from the OMB website below -

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoViewRule?ruleID=269657





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  • Lasantha
    12-14 04:31 PM
    Simple. If it wasn't for that ceiling the vast majority of the visas will go to applicants from the oversubscribed countries. Now this is not a bad thing if the visas are in unlimited supply. But since that's not the case, the country ceiling ensures that even people from smaller nations will get an equal oportunity to claim a visa before all the visa are grabbed by their BIG brothers and sisters. And what's more what ever is left is given back to the oversubscribed countries.

    How can you call that unfair? Is it fair to deprive a person from a smaller country, equal chance to have go at his GC?

    I understand how the current system prevents people of one nationality obtaining all the visas but I am not sure how it prevents any one group or sector monopolizing. Care to clarify?



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  • conchshell
    07-29 12:52 PM
    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.


    I personally feel it all depends on how USCIS is gonna process the cases during August 2008.

    When Ron writes about the new EB2 India quota for 2008, he does not mention spill over to EB 2 India from EB1 category. Which is a very important aspect behind the prediction given by optimists like vdlrao and others.

    However at the same time, if USCIS does not bring its act together and we end up wasting the visas once again ( it highly unlikely that consular visa posts will assign 20 to 40K visas in next two months ... Are there so many people going with CP route??) the dates for EB2 India will retrogress but certainly not to an extent that they go back to 2003. There will be a mild retrogression and EB2 India date may come back to April 2004. However, later on they will progress further because of new years quota and spillover from EB1.





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  • snthampi
    07-28 08:19 PM
    Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

    The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

    No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.

    No one is telling him or you what to do or not with your life. People are just saying that don't bother us with your trash. Do you get it?





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  • snram4
    01-17 10:14 AM
    Even if it is ok to fight how much resource IV have it to fight multiple issues. Resource means not just money but also time, manpower and effort. Most of the issues can be resolved if EB reform is done as people need not renew H1b as most can get GC within 3 years. Law clearly tells that there should be valid job position for H1b at the time of filing. For consulting bodyshoppers will bring persons here and search for job. That is clearly violation of law.
    But certainly it can be requested to USCIS to change if geneunie persons are impacted. If memorendum is violation of law then USCIS will face lawsuit and you can also do that



    There is no such requirement for fresh H1B as well as renewal as per Law. That is why we call it an ILLEGAL memo. We all need to fight this together.

    NB: I am not a specialist in law





    eeezzz
    07-30 11:26 AM
    this makes no sense (with all due respect to Mr Gotcher). He basically claims that PD has been moved to allow CP cases to be processed faster to avoid visa number wastage.. However he also says that there is a huge backlog of AOS cases. Looking at how many CP cases are being called for interview in mumbai and delhi (low hundreds) I dont see how CP alone can help avoid a big wastage of visas. If USCIS is still 20k short, then its the massive pile of AOS cases they should be using, just like they did last year.
    Several things to consider.
    1. Is it really 20k left for this year.
    2. Are there more EB2 RoW applicants filed I-485 for the last few months.
    3. You have number from India CP, do you have number from China CP.





    saimrathi
    07-03 04:13 PM
    You should hav also included Zoe's press release...
    http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
    This email has been sent to all major TV anchors...


    Hi ,

    This is not a regular mail.. I on behalf of many others need the support of honest media persons like you, else our faith in American media will be gone for good....

    pl. read on...




    Illegal action by USCIS causes $ 300 million loss in a single day to Legal & Skilled Immigrants ( Doctors, Engineers & Scientists ) not counting the hardships.


    Skilled immigrants like Doctors, Engineers & Scientists have been paying all the taxes, following all the laws of the land and have been stuck in huge wait period of 3- 7 years to obtain green card.

    On 13th of June 07, USCIS announced that all these people stuck for years can apply for the green card starting 2nd July 07. Everyone spent 2 weeks & $3000 per person at the minimum towards Attorney fees, medical tests & other unsalvageable direct costs prepared the application and started to send it to USCIS starting 2nd July 07.


    In an unusual act of absolute disregard to the hardships and financial loss of these applicants, USCIS announced on the morning of 2nd July 07 that they will not accept any application for green card.

    A COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THEIR EARLIER PLOICY ON THE VERY 1st DAY OF THE WINDOW ANNOUNCED BY THEMSELVES.


    If nobody takes an action to support law abiding legal immigrants at this time, everyone talking about supporting the laws of the land on immigration issue needs to look into his / her own eyes in the mirror.


    What we demand �. Talk to USCIS & encourage them to ATLEAST accept the applications sent by these innocent Skilled Immigrants so that they do not suffer at least the financial loss. USCIS can take their own time to award the green card at a later date


    ARE WE ASKING FOR TOO MUCH ???????????????????