wc_user
10-13 04:25 PM
yes. I did. I have sent them an e-mail mentioning the delay.
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danu2007
10-30 11:01 PM
Done...Posted all the four..
yabadaba
07-11 02:11 PM
for once sepia mutiny decided to cover our story. i still dont understand that blog. more than 80% of the posts are dedicated to ridiculing indian issues...most of the contributors are indian americans...but they never cover our issues.
i cant understand why they cant make up their mind...either limit yourself to covering indian american issues or accept that we are a part of your ethnic group too. is there an african american blog that keeps harping about child mortality in africa? is there a italian american blog that is dedicated to researching origins of pasta recipes in italy?
i dont get them but at least we get some more coverage.
i cant understand why they cant make up their mind...either limit yourself to covering indian american issues or accept that we are a part of your ethnic group too. is there an african american blog that keeps harping about child mortality in africa? is there a italian american blog that is dedicated to researching origins of pasta recipes in italy?
i dont get them but at least we get some more coverage.
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baburob2
02-09 05:34 PM
From the article below:
Senate Judiciary committe hearing on immigration will start from March 2nd and will start talking with Sen. Specter's markup which is a good starting point and the full senate hearing will subsequently start as expected on March 27th.
Congress to consider immigration in March
By Ray O'Hanlon
rohanlon@irishecho.com
With regard to the reform issue in Congress, the expectation as of this week was that the Senate Judiciary Committee could take up the various reform bills as early as Thursday, March 2.
The initial discussion in the committee would focus primarily on the proposal drawn up by its chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.
Specter has presented a so-called "chairman's mark" which is comprised of original proposals and some aspects of other bills including the Senate's McCain/Kennedy bill, and the Sensenbrenner/King bill, which has already been passed by the House of Representatives.
The Judiciary Committee hearing is a prelude to full Senate consideration but St. Patrick's Day is likely to delay that for some days after March 17.
This year, for the first time, Congress is taking a week off after the Irish patron saint's day and officially labeling the break as the St. Patrick's Day recess.
That would mean that the earliest likely date for a Senate debate on whatever the judiciary Committee presents it would begin on Monday, March 27.
Given the sharp contrast in the main bills, that debate could some time, weeks if not months to complete.
Meanwhile, Bush noticeably advanced his position on reform in his State of the Union speech to the joint houses of Congress.
"We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy, even though this economy could not function without them," he said.
"All these are forms of economic retreat, and they lead in the same direction toward a stagnant and second-rate economy," the president added.
"Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values and serves the interests of our economy.
"Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border," he added.
However, as with previous statements, Bush did not go into detail as to how he exactly defines amnesty.
How he, and Congress, ultimately defines it will have a profound effect on the lives of tens of thousands of undocumented Irish.
This story appeared in the issue of February 8 - 14, 2006
Senate Judiciary committe hearing on immigration will start from March 2nd and will start talking with Sen. Specter's markup which is a good starting point and the full senate hearing will subsequently start as expected on March 27th.
Congress to consider immigration in March
By Ray O'Hanlon
rohanlon@irishecho.com
With regard to the reform issue in Congress, the expectation as of this week was that the Senate Judiciary Committee could take up the various reform bills as early as Thursday, March 2.
The initial discussion in the committee would focus primarily on the proposal drawn up by its chairman, Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.
Specter has presented a so-called "chairman's mark" which is comprised of original proposals and some aspects of other bills including the Senate's McCain/Kennedy bill, and the Sensenbrenner/King bill, which has already been passed by the House of Representatives.
The Judiciary Committee hearing is a prelude to full Senate consideration but St. Patrick's Day is likely to delay that for some days after March 17.
This year, for the first time, Congress is taking a week off after the Irish patron saint's day and officially labeling the break as the St. Patrick's Day recess.
That would mean that the earliest likely date for a Senate debate on whatever the judiciary Committee presents it would begin on Monday, March 27.
Given the sharp contrast in the main bills, that debate could some time, weeks if not months to complete.
Meanwhile, Bush noticeably advanced his position on reform in his State of the Union speech to the joint houses of Congress.
"We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy, even though this economy could not function without them," he said.
"All these are forms of economic retreat, and they lead in the same direction toward a stagnant and second-rate economy," the president added.
"Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values and serves the interests of our economy.
"Our nation needs orderly and secure borders. To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border," he added.
However, as with previous statements, Bush did not go into detail as to how he exactly defines amnesty.
How he, and Congress, ultimately defines it will have a profound effect on the lives of tens of thousands of undocumented Irish.
This story appeared in the issue of February 8 - 14, 2006
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indianabacklog
06-18 07:28 AM
Hi
I have a question regarding g28 , did u file this form when you did it yourself ..
can an attorney file g28 later on if there is a RFE , who else can file g28
Did not file this form since I prepared all the forms personally. I believe this is only needed if a lawyer files for you.
I have a question regarding g28 , did u file this form when you did it yourself ..
can an attorney file g28 later on if there is a RFE , who else can file g28
Did not file this form since I prepared all the forms personally. I believe this is only needed if a lawyer files for you.
Bpositive
02-09 11:23 AM
This is my first H1-B visa. I was in USA on an F-1 before that. To be honest, I was thinking that it'd take about 7-8 weeks for this matter to solve as I was also told numerous times when I talked over the phone with Delhi consulate people. Saw this forum yesterday, and had no idea that the system in US would be this ridiculous. And no they didn't tell me it was TAL, they only said "administrative processing" and gave me a pink slip. I did call the National Visa Center in USA yesterday, but my prepaid phone died before I could get any relevant information. Will call them again soon and will post here about it. So during this whole time, I was only calling Delhi consulate and checking status online at Delhi consulate's website. Now when I read all these posts about delays here, I am a little afraid now. One my friend in US told me to talk to my boss (in US) and have him call local senator/congressman write a letter to DOS. Has anyone ever heard of such thing or done anything like this? Is is a good idea?
This is what I did -
1. Had my lawyer followup with consulate -they respond quickly to that.
2. Letter from congressman - congressman called consulate and i got a written reply from congressman on status in less than a week
3. Email followup with consulate
4. Calls to DOS - have to be on hold for a bit though..
Interview - Jan 3; 221g (pink) Phd in bio; additional info submitted - Jan 7th; consulate sent info to DOS - Jan 14th; DOS clearance - Jan 31st. Visa issued - Feb 6th...
This is what I did -
1. Had my lawyer followup with consulate -they respond quickly to that.
2. Letter from congressman - congressman called consulate and i got a written reply from congressman on status in less than a week
3. Email followup with consulate
4. Calls to DOS - have to be on hold for a bit though..
Interview - Jan 3; 221g (pink) Phd in bio; additional info submitted - Jan 7th; consulate sent info to DOS - Jan 14th; DOS clearance - Jan 31st. Visa issued - Feb 6th...
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sachuin23
03-29 04:59 PM
I hope this movement makes my wait shorter and make others waiting for years green bit faster :).
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rockstart
06-15 01:14 PM
I have a question if some one has been out of status during F1 period will it affect the 485 how can one mitigate it.
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venetian
01-10 01:48 PM
Is the below format is OK or provide our personal details in the bottom of the letter after signature.......
From:
Name...
Address........
To:
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Mr. President:
contents ...........
Any comments?
From:
Name...
Address........
To:
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Mr. President:
contents ...........
Any comments?
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PD_Dec2002
06-28 09:59 PM
My attorney is planning to send out the paperwork on June 29 to reach by monday july 2nd , is there any problem to this, is there any risk involved in sending on 29th, is anybody else doing this ? Please respond, this is urgent.
So long as you make sure that USPS or the courier does not deliver it before July 2nd, I don't see any problem.
Thanks,
Jayant
So long as you make sure that USPS or the courier does not deliver it before July 2nd, I don't see any problem.
Thanks,
Jayant
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singhv_1980
02-07 01:58 AM
hello casinoroyal, singhv, stuckhere, bepositive..EVERYBODY..need help..
this is the email came from my lawyer today..for the inquiry they did with the consulate regarding my visa.
Hi Shweta,
We understand how frustrating this is for you. We received a response to our inquiry with the consulate. It seems the application is being kept pending for additional administrative processing. The stated reason for the review falls within the law under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under these circumstances, we typically see that the government issues a notice to the applicant wherein additional information is often requested. Kindly advise if you have received any notification from the consulate on this issue.
Best regards,
IS ADMIN PROC DIFFERENT FROM ADD ADMIN PROC ???
also the same day i called DOS and they told me case was approved already in jan..so that means that now more processing needs to be done ??
ADVICE ??
I am sorry and can understand how frustrating this would be for you. But you keep your spirits high. Can you ask your lawyer to contact DOS himself and inquire about your case? Once he has some information, he can communicate with the consulate here in India directly. I am not sure if you can do much here. I am wondering if there is anyway for you to contact VO instead of VFS ppl.
But importantly dont get discouraged, you will sail through.
this is the email came from my lawyer today..for the inquiry they did with the consulate regarding my visa.
Hi Shweta,
We understand how frustrating this is for you. We received a response to our inquiry with the consulate. It seems the application is being kept pending for additional administrative processing. The stated reason for the review falls within the law under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under these circumstances, we typically see that the government issues a notice to the applicant wherein additional information is often requested. Kindly advise if you have received any notification from the consulate on this issue.
Best regards,
IS ADMIN PROC DIFFERENT FROM ADD ADMIN PROC ???
also the same day i called DOS and they told me case was approved already in jan..so that means that now more processing needs to be done ??
ADVICE ??
I am sorry and can understand how frustrating this would be for you. But you keep your spirits high. Can you ask your lawyer to contact DOS himself and inquire about your case? Once he has some information, he can communicate with the consulate here in India directly. I am not sure if you can do much here. I am wondering if there is anyway for you to contact VO instead of VFS ppl.
But importantly dont get discouraged, you will sail through.
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OLDMONK
06-29 09:06 PM
NO Matter how many people say "Take it easy" its simply not possible, you will have to be a superhuman to do that. Sure its stressfull but no more stressful than boarding your first flight to USA. no more stressful than attending 1st H1B interview at the consulate or your first client interview. So in the end, we have been through all the hurdles with most of us surviving 2001-2002 job markets and now is 2007.
The point is we have been through all that successfully and thats a BIG WIN. So we will be through this too, but not without stress. The day we decided to come to USA and until now we have been successful as we are resourceful and can improvise at a short notice and we will. We are shrewd individuals and We Will PREVAIL.
The point is we have been through all that successfully and thats a BIG WIN. So we will be through this too, but not without stress. The day we decided to come to USA and until now we have been successful as we are resourceful and can improvise at a short notice and we will. We are shrewd individuals and We Will PREVAIL.
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485Mbe4001
09-29 07:55 PM
its ok, you misunderstood my point. I dont want to divert OP of this thread.
Anyways the fact of the matter is that we are in a limbo, all indications point to Obama becoming the next president of US. if CIR 2008 was any indication , we as EB applicants are royally screwed if Sen Durbin dictates his immigration policy. What is the use of talking about wars and innocent people when chances are that the advocate of his immigration policy is opposed to my main issue of EB reform. high low Taxes, 401k's, houses, Medicare etc will matter if you get to stay here in the first place. A average 6-9 years of paying taxes, supporting medicare and Social Security and we now need to think about moving to different countries where skilled immigrants are welcome....think about it. Just look at the CIR 2008 discussion to understand what i am talking about. Read the senators transcripts.
Anyways the fact of the matter is that we are in a limbo, all indications point to Obama becoming the next president of US. if CIR 2008 was any indication , we as EB applicants are royally screwed if Sen Durbin dictates his immigration policy. What is the use of talking about wars and innocent people when chances are that the advocate of his immigration policy is opposed to my main issue of EB reform. high low Taxes, 401k's, houses, Medicare etc will matter if you get to stay here in the first place. A average 6-9 years of paying taxes, supporting medicare and Social Security and we now need to think about moving to different countries where skilled immigrants are welcome....think about it. Just look at the CIR 2008 discussion to understand what i am talking about. Read the senators transcripts.
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thakurrajiv
11-25 04:07 PM
People like you and boreal are doing much better because you decided that a 2 bed room house for rent is what you can afford because the prices shot up by guys like punjabi who wanted to make money and overbid on an house they cannot afford. Otherwise guys like you and many others would have bought house at a resonable price.
Don't you see what is happening? They live a rich man's life buying house that they cannot afford and then they foreclose with banks taking the hit. The banks in turn gets money from Governement, which they tax on people like you and many others who are renting, so that the guys like pubjabi are entitled to big house and bailouts. This is sick. Where is my bail out money. I want my rent to be subsidized too. I think boreal 's anger is real.
As I said I am against bailout. As none of these people/organizations should be bailed out. On this issues I resonate with you and boreal.
But if I am in situation like Punjabi I will think in similar way. I think he has got enough suggestions for him. He needs to decide whether 20k is worth foreclosing.
On living rich, I prefer living decent in long run than living rich for a few days and then suffering later ..
Don't you see what is happening? They live a rich man's life buying house that they cannot afford and then they foreclose with banks taking the hit. The banks in turn gets money from Governement, which they tax on people like you and many others who are renting, so that the guys like pubjabi are entitled to big house and bailouts. This is sick. Where is my bail out money. I want my rent to be subsidized too. I think boreal 's anger is real.
As I said I am against bailout. As none of these people/organizations should be bailed out. On this issues I resonate with you and boreal.
But if I am in situation like Punjabi I will think in similar way. I think he has got enough suggestions for him. He needs to decide whether 20k is worth foreclosing.
On living rich, I prefer living decent in long run than living rich for a few days and then suffering later ..
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trueguy
08-21 12:23 AM
Thanks trueguy!. It took me a while to realize that some people here are trying to misguide and misrepresent. Wish I had not spent so much of my time replying to those inane posts.
There is no basis for Oct PD to be at or near Jun 2007 PD levels, it is only to lull us into inaction. And I would be more than happy to be wrong about this :o
And it looks like some one was asked by their teacher to write imposition... and therefore we are seeing repeat dribble of the same post.
Absolutely, I have seen misleading comments especially from EB2 guys. EB3 have to do something otherwise there is no future for us here. Now EB2 line will never end bcoz all new applications will come as EB2. Hoping for spillover after EB2-I becomes current is just a dream now that never comes true.
There is no basis for Oct PD to be at or near Jun 2007 PD levels, it is only to lull us into inaction. And I would be more than happy to be wrong about this :o
And it looks like some one was asked by their teacher to write imposition... and therefore we are seeing repeat dribble of the same post.
Absolutely, I have seen misleading comments especially from EB2 guys. EB3 have to do something otherwise there is no future for us here. Now EB2 line will never end bcoz all new applications will come as EB2. Hoping for spillover after EB2-I becomes current is just a dream now that never comes true.
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appusheth
05-26 11:58 AM
Hello,
Citizen of India.
1st H1 valid until Sept 2008.
Consultate for CP will be Mumbai, India.
I have a couple of questions pertaining to GC.
My LC is approved 2 days back (Filed - May 17, Approved - May 25) I didnt know this happens so fast. We have not yet received the cetitified documents from the department so I dont know whether its EB2 or EB3.
My lawyer says it is upto the department to decide whether my case comes under EB2 or EB3? Is this right?
Now we plan to file the I-140 in June 07. Should I go for premium processing right from the first time? My company is ready to do this. But someone said on one of these websites that this creates a suspicion in the minds of the department. I dont know how true this is?
I am thinking to opt for Consular Processing. What do you recommend on this?
I have read that we can also file I-140/485 concurrently. What does that mean? I was under the impression that first I-140 needs to be approved and only then we can file the other papers.
I read in one of the posts that the 485 and EAD were approved becore I-140. How is that possible?
Now the main thing that is bothering me is the financial situation of the company. They have good money and they can afford to pay me well, but the old accountant messed up big time and filed all wrong taxes and di not maintain proper records etc. So on papers its not such a great company, but they have money for sure. How can this be a hurdle?
All your help will be highly appreciated.
Thank You.
Citizen of India.
1st H1 valid until Sept 2008.
Consultate for CP will be Mumbai, India.
I have a couple of questions pertaining to GC.
My LC is approved 2 days back (Filed - May 17, Approved - May 25) I didnt know this happens so fast. We have not yet received the cetitified documents from the department so I dont know whether its EB2 or EB3.
My lawyer says it is upto the department to decide whether my case comes under EB2 or EB3? Is this right?
Now we plan to file the I-140 in June 07. Should I go for premium processing right from the first time? My company is ready to do this. But someone said on one of these websites that this creates a suspicion in the minds of the department. I dont know how true this is?
I am thinking to opt for Consular Processing. What do you recommend on this?
I have read that we can also file I-140/485 concurrently. What does that mean? I was under the impression that first I-140 needs to be approved and only then we can file the other papers.
I read in one of the posts that the 485 and EAD were approved becore I-140. How is that possible?
Now the main thing that is bothering me is the financial situation of the company. They have good money and they can afford to pay me well, but the old accountant messed up big time and filed all wrong taxes and di not maintain proper records etc. So on papers its not such a great company, but they have money for sure. How can this be a hurdle?
All your help will be highly appreciated.
Thank You.
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chanduv23
01-10 10:26 PM
Chanduv23:
I understand your enthusiasm of spreading +ve ness , but you need to also look at the practical implications on the situation. You are too criticizing and self-centric in what you beleive is the right thing to do.
Things do not work the way you expect at times and backfire. All I am saying is to give it a second thought if you are not getting a huge turn out of people. If you believe you are the smartest ass in the forums, tell me how many people you beleive would come forward and write a letter to the president. It's nothing to do with whether you did it, but are taking off the apprehensions and motivate other people to do it.
I agree with comments from walking_dude as it's inspiring and has a point. Get out of the shell and look at the world from a different perspective.
I am pretty straight forward in my approach and do not know how to "sugarcoat". This is not my own organization, I am not the founder of this organization, I am just a member like you. While it is individual's choice of doing what they want to do, what I have noticed is that the negative energy does have cascading effect, especially when things do not happen, those who spread negative energy seem to influence people. Once again, this is individuals own perspective. The fact that things do not happen easily we have to blow trumphets into the ears of people. Like a member said sometime back "Eagles which never flew - would not dare to fly until they are pushed, and when they are pushed forcefully and dropped into the air - they automatically start flying".
I have done what I can in the best of my capacity and continue to do so, I have considered IV as a self help group and also conducted meetings in the tri state area and continue to motivate people to make them feel a sense for the community.
If you look at IV as YOUR organization - you can see why it is important to feel a sense for the community.
The biggest issue our community faces today is the flow of negative energy. To quote examples, I was able to convince some friends for the rally in DC. Everything was going well, now when these people discussed with their collegues they were reluctant and did not show interest. The negative energy prompted my friends not to attend the rally because they felt that not many people are going for it and they tried to convince me out of IV. Such negative energy flows everywhere in the community and we have to overcome it. We can do it only by example.
Look at all those other immigration forums where people are talking bad about IV including their administrators and their owners - people who follow those websites will hate IV and hinder all our efforts. Such negative energy when it is flowing at a greater level - will cause more and more damage to our community.
It is simple - if you attack me for what I do - you are spreading negative energy - you are making a common man take a back seat and not encourage them to cooperate
If I point at h1bmajdoor's posts - I am doing it just to make sure that the positive energy flows and negativity does not influence the community.
it is a tough battle especially when you have thousands of daggers pointing at you ready to poke you.
Well, you say I am a smartass - so be it.
And if you do not support the community - stay away - why poke at someone who is doing something?
I understand your enthusiasm of spreading +ve ness , but you need to also look at the practical implications on the situation. You are too criticizing and self-centric in what you beleive is the right thing to do.
Things do not work the way you expect at times and backfire. All I am saying is to give it a second thought if you are not getting a huge turn out of people. If you believe you are the smartest ass in the forums, tell me how many people you beleive would come forward and write a letter to the president. It's nothing to do with whether you did it, but are taking off the apprehensions and motivate other people to do it.
I agree with comments from walking_dude as it's inspiring and has a point. Get out of the shell and look at the world from a different perspective.
I am pretty straight forward in my approach and do not know how to "sugarcoat". This is not my own organization, I am not the founder of this organization, I am just a member like you. While it is individual's choice of doing what they want to do, what I have noticed is that the negative energy does have cascading effect, especially when things do not happen, those who spread negative energy seem to influence people. Once again, this is individuals own perspective. The fact that things do not happen easily we have to blow trumphets into the ears of people. Like a member said sometime back "Eagles which never flew - would not dare to fly until they are pushed, and when they are pushed forcefully and dropped into the air - they automatically start flying".
I have done what I can in the best of my capacity and continue to do so, I have considered IV as a self help group and also conducted meetings in the tri state area and continue to motivate people to make them feel a sense for the community.
If you look at IV as YOUR organization - you can see why it is important to feel a sense for the community.
The biggest issue our community faces today is the flow of negative energy. To quote examples, I was able to convince some friends for the rally in DC. Everything was going well, now when these people discussed with their collegues they were reluctant and did not show interest. The negative energy prompted my friends not to attend the rally because they felt that not many people are going for it and they tried to convince me out of IV. Such negative energy flows everywhere in the community and we have to overcome it. We can do it only by example.
Look at all those other immigration forums where people are talking bad about IV including their administrators and their owners - people who follow those websites will hate IV and hinder all our efforts. Such negative energy when it is flowing at a greater level - will cause more and more damage to our community.
It is simple - if you attack me for what I do - you are spreading negative energy - you are making a common man take a back seat and not encourage them to cooperate
If I point at h1bmajdoor's posts - I am doing it just to make sure that the positive energy flows and negativity does not influence the community.
it is a tough battle especially when you have thousands of daggers pointing at you ready to poke you.
Well, you say I am a smartass - so be it.
And if you do not support the community - stay away - why poke at someone who is doing something?
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Robert Kumar
04-01 06:33 PM
I don't want to be a spoilsport.
But there is a possibility that EB2I has not yet retrogressed (inspite of heavy porting) because USCIS knows EB1C 12000 will flow to EB2 right. In that case we may not see movement of dates in par with 12000 spillover.
Maybe I am pessimistic.
In all calculations, it is mentioned that porting at max could be 6k/year. How did we come up with this number? Any proof or just a guess?
Thanks.
"Inspite of heavy porting". Dude, with just two posts, and that in last 2 months, where do you get that info.
Let us know how did you come up with that conclusion.
But there is a possibility that EB2I has not yet retrogressed (inspite of heavy porting) because USCIS knows EB1C 12000 will flow to EB2 right. In that case we may not see movement of dates in par with 12000 spillover.
Maybe I am pessimistic.
In all calculations, it is mentioned that porting at max could be 6k/year. How did we come up with this number? Any proof or just a guess?
Thanks.
"Inspite of heavy porting". Dude, with just two posts, and that in last 2 months, where do you get that info.
Let us know how did you come up with that conclusion.
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GC_newbee
11-06 10:06 PM
how do i check if my name is stuck in fbi namecheck or cleared? Just callin USCIS will provide the info or is there anythin to be done.
I had applied for 485 on July 2 nd.
I had applied for 485 on July 2 nd.
vbkris77
04-01 11:38 AM
Don't drag me into this.. It is totally cool if you want get information from multiple sources.. IV intention is not to provide news updates..
IV is a platform for fixing legal immigration.. That takes money to do that.. So there various innovative ways an organization can try get money to reach its goals.. This is one way..
I support and understand this initiate and hence I am writing in Donor forum..
I am not sure if u were born as an idiot or became an idiot after being turning a so called "donor".
To be frank I stopped contributing as and when IV started having donor forums.
There are thousands of websites and forums througout the internet to get info and what VKBris posted may not even come close to what Q and Teddy and so many others used to share as a group.
Now coming on to freebies,What benefit does IV provide to past contributors.I have contributed in the past, have been active at the initial stages,have spent my own money and booked airtickets to meet senators.Been a leader in a state chapter.But later realised that it was not worth for this forum which has partitions among so called donors.
Why the heck does any one want to see in a home page about posts on a donor forum.Just hide it and keep it among yourself and discuss .
Now red may follow,and a possible ban.
IV is a platform for fixing legal immigration.. That takes money to do that.. So there various innovative ways an organization can try get money to reach its goals.. This is one way..
I support and understand this initiate and hence I am writing in Donor forum..
I am not sure if u were born as an idiot or became an idiot after being turning a so called "donor".
To be frank I stopped contributing as and when IV started having donor forums.
There are thousands of websites and forums througout the internet to get info and what VKBris posted may not even come close to what Q and Teddy and so many others used to share as a group.
Now coming on to freebies,What benefit does IV provide to past contributors.I have contributed in the past, have been active at the initial stages,have spent my own money and booked airtickets to meet senators.Been a leader in a state chapter.But later realised that it was not worth for this forum which has partitions among so called donors.
Why the heck does any one want to see in a home page about posts on a donor forum.Just hide it and keep it among yourself and discuss .
Now red may follow,and a possible ban.
Macaca
12-05 04:56 PM
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, I�d like to move on. I want to play a report from your show covering former Mexican President Vicente Fox�s May 2000 visit to the United States. Your reporter Casey Wian�
LOU DOBBS: Wian.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Wian, I�m sorry�described the visit as a, quote, �Mexican military incursion.� This aired on May 23, 2006.
CASEY WIAN: This Mexican military incursion was fully authorized. A Mexican air force jet carrying President Vicente Fox was not just invited to Utah, but encouraged to visit by Governor John Huntsman.
PRESIDENT VICENTE FOX: We fully support the businessmen from Utah and Mexico�
CASE WIAN: It�s estimated Utah has about 100,000 illegal aliens, and the number is growing rapidly. Utah is also a part of the territory some militant Latino activists refer to as Aztlan, the portion of the Southwest United States they claim rightfully belongs to Mexico.
You could call this the Vicente Fox Aztlan tour, since the three states he�ll visit�Utah, Washington, and California�are all part of some radical group�s vision of the mythical indigenous homeland, Lou.
LOU DOBBS: Casey, thank you very much.
JUAN GONZALEZ: The Southern Poverty Law Center criticized CNN for airing that report, in part because, as your reporter Casey Wian spoke, a graphic appeared on the screen. It was a map of the United States highlighting the seven Southwestern states that Mexico supposedly covets and calls Aztlan. The map was prominently sourced to the Council of Conservative Citizens, which is considered by many to be a white supremacist hate group.
AMY GOODMAN: Your response, Lou Dobbs?
LOU DOBBS: You know the response, and you know the reality. That�how long was that screen up? How long was that map up?
AMY GOODMAN: Enough to see it.
JUAN GONZALEZ: A few seconds.
LOU DOBBS: The field producer who�did you know it was from the CCC? Which is a hate group.
AMY GOODMAN: It�s attributed right there. It says Council of Conservative Citizens.
LOU DOBBS: Right. And it couldn�t be clearer, could it? I mean, we weren�t hiding anything. We had no idea what they were. The field producer who used it went on the web, pulled�did a �grab,� as it�s called, and put it up. And she was suspended for a day for doing so.
Did you guys know that we have sent our producers and our reporters down to the Southern Poverty Law Center years ago to make certain this sort of thing doesn�t happen? That�s how seriously we take the issue. And for you to talk about the incursion, you forgot to point out that that was coming out of rather jocular discussion of the incursions by Mexican forces along the border and the response of the US government.
JUAN GONZALEZ: But�
LOU DOBBS: And, I mean, are you offended?
AMY GOODMAN: Lou, did you say you have no idea what the Council of Concervative Citizens is?
LOU DOBBS: Did I say I don�t?
AMY GOODMAN: Yes.
LOU DOBBS: I certainly do now. Absolutely. What did I�you didn�t hear what I just said?
AMY GOODMAN: I just want to�
LOU DOBBS: They�re acknowledged as a hate group. Absolutely.
JUAN GONZALEZ: See, but the problem, this�
LOU DOBBS: What is the problem here?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Projecting the image to your viewers that there�s a Mexican desire to reconquer, the Reconquista of the Southwestern United States, does create images�and especially in people who are not necessarily as intelligent as you necessarily or who have studied as much as you have�
LOU DOBBS: Thank you for conceding that.
JUAN GONZALEZ: �that the country is under siege.
LOU DOBBS: My god, are you so self-important that you don�t think people have a sense of humor when Casey Wian says this is an authorized incursion by the Mexican government? You don�t think people have a sense of humor about that? The reality is, I think most people do. The other thing is, who are you trying to protect America from? I�m a little confused, because the reality is that there is a strong radical group of Reconquistas and Aztlan aficionados, and I have had them demonstrating against me in a couple of cities over the past few weeks. Don�t sit here being disingenuous�
JUAN GONZALEZ: I�m not.
LOU DOBBS: �and sanctimonious, because, let me tell you something�
JUAN GONZALEZ: I�m not being disingenuous.
LOU DOBBS: �there are many idiots on either extreme of this debate, and don�t kid yourself�
AMY GOODMAN: But, Lou, I think what�s important here�
LOU DOBBS: �and you know it.
AMY GOODMAN: �once again, is the pattern. It�s the pattern�
LOU DOBBS: The pattern�come on, please.
AMY GOODMAN: No, let me make my point, because what I talk about is facts.
LOU DOBBS: OK, let�s look at the pattern. The pattern is, for five years, we�ve been reporting on illegal immigration. The pattern is that we have been reporting on the impact of illegal immigration. It doesn�t suit your partisan views�and that�s understandable�or your ideological views. But don�t get carried away with yourselves, for crying out loud!
LOU DOBBS: Wian.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Wian, I�m sorry�described the visit as a, quote, �Mexican military incursion.� This aired on May 23, 2006.
CASEY WIAN: This Mexican military incursion was fully authorized. A Mexican air force jet carrying President Vicente Fox was not just invited to Utah, but encouraged to visit by Governor John Huntsman.
PRESIDENT VICENTE FOX: We fully support the businessmen from Utah and Mexico�
CASE WIAN: It�s estimated Utah has about 100,000 illegal aliens, and the number is growing rapidly. Utah is also a part of the territory some militant Latino activists refer to as Aztlan, the portion of the Southwest United States they claim rightfully belongs to Mexico.
You could call this the Vicente Fox Aztlan tour, since the three states he�ll visit�Utah, Washington, and California�are all part of some radical group�s vision of the mythical indigenous homeland, Lou.
LOU DOBBS: Casey, thank you very much.
JUAN GONZALEZ: The Southern Poverty Law Center criticized CNN for airing that report, in part because, as your reporter Casey Wian spoke, a graphic appeared on the screen. It was a map of the United States highlighting the seven Southwestern states that Mexico supposedly covets and calls Aztlan. The map was prominently sourced to the Council of Conservative Citizens, which is considered by many to be a white supremacist hate group.
AMY GOODMAN: Your response, Lou Dobbs?
LOU DOBBS: You know the response, and you know the reality. That�how long was that screen up? How long was that map up?
AMY GOODMAN: Enough to see it.
JUAN GONZALEZ: A few seconds.
LOU DOBBS: The field producer who�did you know it was from the CCC? Which is a hate group.
AMY GOODMAN: It�s attributed right there. It says Council of Conservative Citizens.
LOU DOBBS: Right. And it couldn�t be clearer, could it? I mean, we weren�t hiding anything. We had no idea what they were. The field producer who used it went on the web, pulled�did a �grab,� as it�s called, and put it up. And she was suspended for a day for doing so.
Did you guys know that we have sent our producers and our reporters down to the Southern Poverty Law Center years ago to make certain this sort of thing doesn�t happen? That�s how seriously we take the issue. And for you to talk about the incursion, you forgot to point out that that was coming out of rather jocular discussion of the incursions by Mexican forces along the border and the response of the US government.
JUAN GONZALEZ: But�
LOU DOBBS: And, I mean, are you offended?
AMY GOODMAN: Lou, did you say you have no idea what the Council of Concervative Citizens is?
LOU DOBBS: Did I say I don�t?
AMY GOODMAN: Yes.
LOU DOBBS: I certainly do now. Absolutely. What did I�you didn�t hear what I just said?
AMY GOODMAN: I just want to�
LOU DOBBS: They�re acknowledged as a hate group. Absolutely.
JUAN GONZALEZ: See, but the problem, this�
LOU DOBBS: What is the problem here?
JUAN GONZALEZ: Projecting the image to your viewers that there�s a Mexican desire to reconquer, the Reconquista of the Southwestern United States, does create images�and especially in people who are not necessarily as intelligent as you necessarily or who have studied as much as you have�
LOU DOBBS: Thank you for conceding that.
JUAN GONZALEZ: �that the country is under siege.
LOU DOBBS: My god, are you so self-important that you don�t think people have a sense of humor when Casey Wian says this is an authorized incursion by the Mexican government? You don�t think people have a sense of humor about that? The reality is, I think most people do. The other thing is, who are you trying to protect America from? I�m a little confused, because the reality is that there is a strong radical group of Reconquistas and Aztlan aficionados, and I have had them demonstrating against me in a couple of cities over the past few weeks. Don�t sit here being disingenuous�
JUAN GONZALEZ: I�m not.
LOU DOBBS: �and sanctimonious, because, let me tell you something�
JUAN GONZALEZ: I�m not being disingenuous.
LOU DOBBS: �there are many idiots on either extreme of this debate, and don�t kid yourself�
AMY GOODMAN: But, Lou, I think what�s important here�
LOU DOBBS: �and you know it.
AMY GOODMAN: �once again, is the pattern. It�s the pattern�
LOU DOBBS: The pattern�come on, please.
AMY GOODMAN: No, let me make my point, because what I talk about is facts.
LOU DOBBS: OK, let�s look at the pattern. The pattern is, for five years, we�ve been reporting on illegal immigration. The pattern is that we have been reporting on the impact of illegal immigration. It doesn�t suit your partisan views�and that�s understandable�or your ideological views. But don�t get carried away with yourselves, for crying out loud!
