ilikekilo
09-19 07:32 PM
any idea how many came to the rally?
wallpaper Danny Jones
nozerd
01-04 04:51 PM
bump up.
Drifter
04-01 07:10 PM
Contact attoreny ASAP why/how it has happened. As he represnts you, USCIS acts upon his request to withdraw. However, he has to make such requsest only upon your written communication to withdraw the application. Therefore, find out whose mistake it is (law firm or USCIS).
Ramba and others
Thanks for all your responses, It is clearly the attorneys fault.
- I have a letter I wrote to the attorney asking them to withdraw the representation. and the letter clearly states that.
- I have a copy of the letter the attorney sent to USCIS and this letter is clearly asking USCIS to withdraw the case.
The error is with the Attorney and it is one of the big immigration firms.
What really bothers me is that the error is not on USCIS's part but the error is of the Attorney so I am afraid that USCIS may not be too inclined to reinstate the case.
Does any one know if the client has any legal protection from errors and mistakes made by the attorneys
Does any one know if the client has any legal protection from errors and mistakes made by the attorneys
Please help.
Ramba and others
Thanks for all your responses, It is clearly the attorneys fault.
- I have a letter I wrote to the attorney asking them to withdraw the representation. and the letter clearly states that.
- I have a copy of the letter the attorney sent to USCIS and this letter is clearly asking USCIS to withdraw the case.
The error is with the Attorney and it is one of the big immigration firms.
What really bothers me is that the error is not on USCIS's part but the error is of the Attorney so I am afraid that USCIS may not be too inclined to reinstate the case.
Does any one know if the client has any legal protection from errors and mistakes made by the attorneys
Does any one know if the client has any legal protection from errors and mistakes made by the attorneys
Please help.
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ghouse1742
08-11 04:56 PM
I will use it surely when I come across a good opportunity. This is a provision provided by USCIS just for the specific purpose of changing jobs, so why do you anticipate any issues with using AC21 with in the guidelines for using it. I would also consult some one (best one will be a lawyer in my view) who has done this and has good knowledge of this to make sure everything is in order. Best of luck and enjoy the little flexibility AC21 provides.
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rahulpaper
07-02 03:21 PM
Total 1000+ (Medical/Photograph/Travel to Doc/Postage/affidavits/phone calls/etc).
indyanguy
12-19 12:10 PM
wish life were simple huh?
Attorney_11"The appeal of an I-485 denial can take several months, or even a year or more. "
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=934109056
I thought so. Life's never simple with USCIS in it :) If at that time my spouse (my beneficiary) has not used EAD and is still on a non immigrant visa (H1 or L1), can I switch to dependent status?
Attorney_11"The appeal of an I-485 denial can take several months, or even a year or more. "
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=934109056
I thought so. Life's never simple with USCIS in it :) If at that time my spouse (my beneficiary) has not used EAD and is still on a non immigrant visa (H1 or L1), can I switch to dependent status?
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gcdreamer05
01-09 12:26 PM
Excellent thanks for explaining so clearly.... gave u a green !!!:D
What is the Federal Government's role in COBRA?
COBRA continuation coverage laws are administered by several agencies. The Departments of Labor and Treasury have jurisdiction over private-sector health group health plans. The Department of Health and Human Services administers the continuation coverage law as it affects public-sector health plans.
The Labor Department's interpretive and regulatory responsibility is limited to the disclosure and notification requirements of COBRA. If you need further information on your disclosure or notification rights under a private-sector plan, or about ERISA generally, telephone EBSA's Toll-Free number at: 1.866.444.3272, or write to:
U.S. Department of Labor
Employee Benefits Security Administration
Division of Technical Assistance and Inquiries
200 Constitution Avenue NW, Suite N-5619
Washington, DC 20210
The Internal Revenue Service, Department of the Treasury, has issued regulations on COBRA provisions relating to eligibility, coverage and premiums in 26 CFR Part 54, Continuation Coverage Requirements Applicable to Group Health Plans. Both the Departments of Labor and Treasury share jurisdiction for enforcement of these provisions.
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services offers information about COBRA provisions for public-sector employees. You can write them at this address:
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
7500 Security Boulevard
Mail Stop C1-22-06
Baltimore, MD 21244-1850
Tel 1.877.267.2323 x61565
I am a federal employee. Can I receive benefits under COBRA?
Federal employees are covered by a law similar to COBRA. Those employees should contact the personnel office serving their agency for more information on temporary extensions of health benefits.
Am I eligible for COBRA if my company closed or went bankrupt and there is no health plan?
If there is no longer a health plan, there is no COBRA coverage available. If, however, there is another plan offered by the company, you may be covered under that plan. Union members who are covered by a collective bargaining agreement that provides for a medical plan also may be entitled to continued coverage.
How do I find out about COBRA coverage and how do I elect to take it?
Employers or health plan administrators must provide an initial general notice if you are entitled to COBRA benefits. You probably received the initial notice about COBRA coverage when you were hired.
When you are no longer eligible for health coverage, your employer has to provide you with a specific notice regarding your rights to COBRA continuation benefits.
Employers must notify their plan administrators within 30 days after an employee's termination or after a reduction in hours that causes and employee to lose health benefits.
The plan administrator must provide notice to individual employees of their right to elect COBRA coverage within 14 days after the administrator has received notice from the employer.
You must respond to this notice and elect COBRA coverage by the 60th day after the written notice is sent or the day health care coverage ceased, whichever is later. Otherwise, you will lose all rights to COBRA benefits.
Spouses and dependent children covered under your health plan have an independent right to elect COBRA coverage upon your termination or reduction in hours. If, for instance, you have a family member with an illness at the time you are laid off, that person alone can elect coverage.
What is the Federal Government's role in COBRA?
COBRA continuation coverage laws are administered by several agencies. The Departments of Labor and Treasury have jurisdiction over private-sector health group health plans. The Department of Health and Human Services administers the continuation coverage law as it affects public-sector health plans.
The Labor Department's interpretive and regulatory responsibility is limited to the disclosure and notification requirements of COBRA. If you need further information on your disclosure or notification rights under a private-sector plan, or about ERISA generally, telephone EBSA's Toll-Free number at: 1.866.444.3272, or write to:
U.S. Department of Labor
Employee Benefits Security Administration
Division of Technical Assistance and Inquiries
200 Constitution Avenue NW, Suite N-5619
Washington, DC 20210
The Internal Revenue Service, Department of the Treasury, has issued regulations on COBRA provisions relating to eligibility, coverage and premiums in 26 CFR Part 54, Continuation Coverage Requirements Applicable to Group Health Plans. Both the Departments of Labor and Treasury share jurisdiction for enforcement of these provisions.
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services offers information about COBRA provisions for public-sector employees. You can write them at this address:
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
7500 Security Boulevard
Mail Stop C1-22-06
Baltimore, MD 21244-1850
Tel 1.877.267.2323 x61565
I am a federal employee. Can I receive benefits under COBRA?
Federal employees are covered by a law similar to COBRA. Those employees should contact the personnel office serving their agency for more information on temporary extensions of health benefits.
Am I eligible for COBRA if my company closed or went bankrupt and there is no health plan?
If there is no longer a health plan, there is no COBRA coverage available. If, however, there is another plan offered by the company, you may be covered under that plan. Union members who are covered by a collective bargaining agreement that provides for a medical plan also may be entitled to continued coverage.
How do I find out about COBRA coverage and how do I elect to take it?
Employers or health plan administrators must provide an initial general notice if you are entitled to COBRA benefits. You probably received the initial notice about COBRA coverage when you were hired.
When you are no longer eligible for health coverage, your employer has to provide you with a specific notice regarding your rights to COBRA continuation benefits.
Employers must notify their plan administrators within 30 days after an employee's termination or after a reduction in hours that causes and employee to lose health benefits.
The plan administrator must provide notice to individual employees of their right to elect COBRA coverage within 14 days after the administrator has received notice from the employer.
You must respond to this notice and elect COBRA coverage by the 60th day after the written notice is sent or the day health care coverage ceased, whichever is later. Otherwise, you will lose all rights to COBRA benefits.
Spouses and dependent children covered under your health plan have an independent right to elect COBRA coverage upon your termination or reduction in hours. If, for instance, you have a family member with an illness at the time you are laid off, that person alone can elect coverage.
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alterego
12-14 06:56 AM
Labour Sub the way it is used is legal but not necessarily moral. However the USCIS has always looked at this ONLY from the EMPLOYERS eyes and therefore don't see much wrong in it. I am sure this is one thing we would agree with the programmers guild on.
The really scary thing is "Vintage wine" is really precious and very much in demand. However if it were available in huge quantities, it would be had as often as you want. Problem for us is that with BECs moving applications very fast, there will be sure to be many more of these floating around and freely available. As long as they allow this, the pace of movement of PDs will be anemic at best.
One argument to be made which might get more traction is that this practice is unfair to the newer companies as compared to more established ones.
The stench of this system is at times unbearable. I have always said, it selects its criteria and positively discriminates on such things such as place of birth, yet places little value on the importance of a particular skill set (after all it is EB immgration we are talking about). In many ways it is its simplicity as a system in a much more complex and manipulative world that causes these problems. Whether this is by design or not is another discussion. Either way it stinks!
The really scary thing is "Vintage wine" is really precious and very much in demand. However if it were available in huge quantities, it would be had as often as you want. Problem for us is that with BECs moving applications very fast, there will be sure to be many more of these floating around and freely available. As long as they allow this, the pace of movement of PDs will be anemic at best.
One argument to be made which might get more traction is that this practice is unfair to the newer companies as compared to more established ones.
The stench of this system is at times unbearable. I have always said, it selects its criteria and positively discriminates on such things such as place of birth, yet places little value on the importance of a particular skill set (after all it is EB immgration we are talking about). In many ways it is its simplicity as a system in a much more complex and manipulative world that causes these problems. Whether this is by design or not is another discussion. Either way it stinks!
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edaltsis
10-03 08:35 PM
e-filed on 2 Sep, 2008 (Nebraska Service Center)
- Received Notices on 6 Sep, 2008
- FP: 10 Sep, 2008
- Card Prod Ordered: 22 Sep, 2008
- EAD Card Received on 24 Sep, 2008 (with 2 year validity)
- Received Notices on 6 Sep, 2008
- FP: 10 Sep, 2008
- Card Prod Ordered: 22 Sep, 2008
- EAD Card Received on 24 Sep, 2008 (with 2 year validity)
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maximus777
07-13 04:19 PM
Definite. My journey was worth it, even considering all the diffiulties. In India, I had a flourshing practice and when I was planning to go to US, my friends will call be a "fool".
However, looking back, I think I made a wise decision. I have a very good academic job, for which I am proud of. My wife has a very respectable job, which she could not have done there. My kids are much more independent and mature and have more opportunities in terms of education, jobs, travel etc. My health is far better here (I was allergic to dust and had athma). I have more time to enjoy sports and travel. Most of my immediate family is in US.
In nutshell, YES, I did the right thing.
Excellent!! Congrats and glad that it all worked out for you.
However, looking back, I think I made a wise decision. I have a very good academic job, for which I am proud of. My wife has a very respectable job, which she could not have done there. My kids are much more independent and mature and have more opportunities in terms of education, jobs, travel etc. My health is far better here (I was allergic to dust and had athma). I have more time to enjoy sports and travel. Most of my immediate family is in US.
In nutshell, YES, I did the right thing.
Excellent!! Congrats and glad that it all worked out for you.
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GCOP
10-24 02:45 PM
I really don't understand, what can be RFE about, as you have been with the same company all these years. You really deserve a Greencard straight away without a single question after such a Long wait. I hope your RFE is very simple to answer and I wish that you get your Greencard soon. Good Luck.
Thanks for the pointers.
In my case I don't even know if it is namecheck that is blocking my case. So far my guess is that it was just the huge deluge of July 2 applications under which my application got stuck. But now that they have opened my application and mailed an RFE on Oct 22, at least I know that some IO is processing my case. Right now I am eagerly waiting for the RFE details. My law firm(FDBL) has not received it yet. I am pinging them every other day.
To answer another question from another poster, yes, I have been with the same company since 2001.
Thanks for the pointers.
In my case I don't even know if it is namecheck that is blocking my case. So far my guess is that it was just the huge deluge of July 2 applications under which my application got stuck. But now that they have opened my application and mailed an RFE on Oct 22, at least I know that some IO is processing my case. Right now I am eagerly waiting for the RFE details. My law firm(FDBL) has not received it yet. I am pinging them every other day.
To answer another question from another poster, yes, I have been with the same company since 2001.
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meridiani.planum
07-19 11:53 PM
Life is like a game of chess. Make the move which makes the best sense at any stage. What is the point in thinking about past moves?
well since we are in the mood for quotes here's a different take on the use of past moves in making a current move:
George Santayana:
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Etienne Gilson:
History is the only laboratory we have in which to test the consequences of thought.
Kurt Vonnegut:
History is merely a list of surprises. It can only prepare us to be surprised yet again.
Pearl S. Buck:
One faces the future with one's past.
though ofcourse there is no point in fretting over split milk, learning from the past is very very important... Both your own past moves as well as those of people before you.
well since we are in the mood for quotes here's a different take on the use of past moves in making a current move:
George Santayana:
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Etienne Gilson:
History is the only laboratory we have in which to test the consequences of thought.
Kurt Vonnegut:
History is merely a list of surprises. It can only prepare us to be surprised yet again.
Pearl S. Buck:
One faces the future with one's past.
though ofcourse there is no point in fretting over split milk, learning from the past is very very important... Both your own past moves as well as those of people before you.
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singhsa3
01-03 06:58 PM
A freind of mine came across a gentleman, who is here on work visa and he is facing a unique problem. He is married to two persons and wants to bring his whole family here in the USA. He was looking for answer if he can get both his spouses and kids here on H4 visas. Currently both of them and his kids are in India. Interesting hmmm :D
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casinoroyale
08-26 02:27 PM
It is not RFE. Your AP is approved and they mailed it to you.
We have applied for our AP renewal on 05/09 at NSC. I have noticed online status change to our I131s today with the following message. Is this a RFE? if so, what could be the RFE for AP? Your help and input appreciated.
Application Type: I131, APPLICATION FOR USCIS TRAVEL DOCUMENT
Current Status: Document mailed to applicant.
We have applied for our AP renewal on 05/09 at NSC. I have noticed online status change to our I131s today with the following message. Is this a RFE? if so, what could be the RFE for AP? Your help and input appreciated.
Application Type: I131, APPLICATION FOR USCIS TRAVEL DOCUMENT
Current Status: Document mailed to applicant.
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senocular
02-05 02:13 PM
wow Im surprised 42 votes managed to get up there. How many total votes do you usually get for these kinds of things? all those crazy mystery people out there... wheeeeee
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bobyal
05-12 10:46 AM
We as a community have not even done 5 % of the hard work that DREAM act advocates have done. So such provisions are well deserved by them for the hard work they have done. If we had done enough work for our provisions, there is no doubt our provisions would have seen the day. You need to do some search on all the DREAM act advocates have done in the last few years to reach where they are now. And then compare it our community effort and you will get the answers.
We recently had an advocacy day. How many of you contributed to it. We failed to even reach a modest budget goal for such a big event. So there is no point blaming undocumented. We need to first blame ourselves for doing nothing.
I am not blaming any one. We as leagal immigrants spent money in taxes and uscis fees. They spent the money for the campaign and lobbying.
I do feel we spent more than their campaign in taxes and fees.
We recently had an advocacy day. How many of you contributed to it. We failed to even reach a modest budget goal for such a big event. So there is no point blaming undocumented. We need to first blame ourselves for doing nothing.
I am not blaming any one. We as leagal immigrants spent money in taxes and uscis fees. They spent the money for the campaign and lobbying.
I do feel we spent more than their campaign in taxes and fees.
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nissan_1
05-09 09:56 AM
I was also in the same boat in 2005 from New Delhi Embassy..
I had 2 earlier H1B visa stamp from Delhi and this was the third time and this time I got 221 (g) for additional processing...My one month vacation tunrs to three months and I can not tell that was a vacation...it was HELL...I called US embassy so many times...but no one picked up....so many emails..no response...finally after three months got a call that they got my clearnce..nexy day went to embassy and got stamped without a question. I did not get paid for that time period but I had to pay my rents and utility bills from India...
Now my visa has expired and I missed the July boat...so I do not have AP..And I have to go to India for brothers marriage...I am pretty sure this time also I will have to go through this and I heard the name check wait time is 6 months now...I will definitely loose job...so I am in a situation of loosing my job or missing my brothers marriage...And my family memebers do not understand a thing about VISA problems :((. I have emailed New delhi embassy about my situation and asked them do my backgroud check in advance so that I can just go there and do the stamping..but they never replied....It's really frustrating to go through this when you never broke a single law in India and US..(I do not even download anything from web..man...)...
I don't even know where to start on this. Should I be angry or frustrated or laugh at the incompetence of DoS/USCIS or is it just time to leave US and move to more immigration friendly country or better yet - settle down in my home country. I have spent close to a decade in the US, already have a Masters and almost done with the second one. Decided to take a break and visit India/family after 3.5 years. Guess what, I am stuck - since Jan. 7th 2008. No questions asked, no information provided - just handed over a pink slip in the name of "221g - Additional Administrative Processing". So, from being a law-abiding citizen paying his taxes and doing everything by the book, I overnight became a "threat to the national security" whose background needed to be checked. What kind of BS is that? And why for heaven's sake are you worried about me AFTER I have already left the country on my own accord. Subject me to SC while I am there and deport me if something fishy is found. Don't make me go through this WHEN I MYSELF left the country... Oh! Logic - these F@#$heads don't have that.
I don't even have a freaking traffic violation on my name and here I am. Go figure! thankfully, I have family in New Delhi (I went to the embassy here) and a fast Internet connection to continue working - but for how long?
I have called DoS religiously every week for the last few months now... same crappy response, just a different day. I went to the embassy last week to inquire and oh my lord! I was treated like a terrorist. My wife took an Infopass apptt. to figure out and the officer said, "Who knows your husband may be involved in something you don't know?" :) That is when we gave up laughing... understanding and agreeing that if nothing changes in a reasonable amount of time (to each his own) we will change our situation our selves.
I had 2 earlier H1B visa stamp from Delhi and this was the third time and this time I got 221 (g) for additional processing...My one month vacation tunrs to three months and I can not tell that was a vacation...it was HELL...I called US embassy so many times...but no one picked up....so many emails..no response...finally after three months got a call that they got my clearnce..nexy day went to embassy and got stamped without a question. I did not get paid for that time period but I had to pay my rents and utility bills from India...
Now my visa has expired and I missed the July boat...so I do not have AP..And I have to go to India for brothers marriage...I am pretty sure this time also I will have to go through this and I heard the name check wait time is 6 months now...I will definitely loose job...so I am in a situation of loosing my job or missing my brothers marriage...And my family memebers do not understand a thing about VISA problems :((. I have emailed New delhi embassy about my situation and asked them do my backgroud check in advance so that I can just go there and do the stamping..but they never replied....It's really frustrating to go through this when you never broke a single law in India and US..(I do not even download anything from web..man...)...
I don't even know where to start on this. Should I be angry or frustrated or laugh at the incompetence of DoS/USCIS or is it just time to leave US and move to more immigration friendly country or better yet - settle down in my home country. I have spent close to a decade in the US, already have a Masters and almost done with the second one. Decided to take a break and visit India/family after 3.5 years. Guess what, I am stuck - since Jan. 7th 2008. No questions asked, no information provided - just handed over a pink slip in the name of "221g - Additional Administrative Processing". So, from being a law-abiding citizen paying his taxes and doing everything by the book, I overnight became a "threat to the national security" whose background needed to be checked. What kind of BS is that? And why for heaven's sake are you worried about me AFTER I have already left the country on my own accord. Subject me to SC while I am there and deport me if something fishy is found. Don't make me go through this WHEN I MYSELF left the country... Oh! Logic - these F@#$heads don't have that.
I don't even have a freaking traffic violation on my name and here I am. Go figure! thankfully, I have family in New Delhi (I went to the embassy here) and a fast Internet connection to continue working - but for how long?
I have called DoS religiously every week for the last few months now... same crappy response, just a different day. I went to the embassy last week to inquire and oh my lord! I was treated like a terrorist. My wife took an Infopass apptt. to figure out and the officer said, "Who knows your husband may be involved in something you don't know?" :) That is when we gave up laughing... understanding and agreeing that if nothing changes in a reasonable amount of time (to each his own) we will change our situation our selves.
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bkarnik
04-10 04:21 PM
The majority of the USCIS system is based on regulation, not law. The same goes for DOL. Many lawyers have argued that the entire LC/PERM system was created by administrative fiat i.e. it goes way beyond what is laid out in the law.
Having said that, it doesn't appear the the DoJ or DHS will make any changes in their byzantine regulations unless forced by Congress. Consider AC21 which is a law that was made effective >5 years ago but has still not been codified into USCIS regulations!
Morpheus:
I totally agree with you, and that is what surprised me in starting this thread. However, it appears that as recently as 2004, the DHS changed the EAD regulations to extend the validity by more than 1 year in certain cases. I am wondering if it might be worthwhile for the IV core to utilize some resources to try and get the DHS to change the regulation and issue EAD after I140 approval. I feel that we have a good argument considering the facts: a) once I-140 is approved, there is a approval by the USCIS to the employer to hire the alien as a permanent employee and; b) by issuing the EAD at this stage, the USCIS is not in anyway tampering with the GC quotas.
Thoughts??
Having said that, it doesn't appear the the DoJ or DHS will make any changes in their byzantine regulations unless forced by Congress. Consider AC21 which is a law that was made effective >5 years ago but has still not been codified into USCIS regulations!
Morpheus:
I totally agree with you, and that is what surprised me in starting this thread. However, it appears that as recently as 2004, the DHS changed the EAD regulations to extend the validity by more than 1 year in certain cases. I am wondering if it might be worthwhile for the IV core to utilize some resources to try and get the DHS to change the regulation and issue EAD after I140 approval. I feel that we have a good argument considering the facts: a) once I-140 is approved, there is a approval by the USCIS to the employer to hire the alien as a permanent employee and; b) by issuing the EAD at this stage, the USCIS is not in anyway tampering with the GC quotas.
Thoughts??
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guyfromsg
07-10 08:12 PM
Being a big company they may have their own IT dept. If we can find out if they either outsource their IT dept or hire H1-bs than he may not have much to argue..my 2cents.
ChainReaction
07-17 10:34 AM
Date moved from October 03, 2006 to October 06, 2006.. :-(
I also can't see the updated processing time for TSC
Can you tell me the processing time for i140 Skilled and professional worker
thanks
I also can't see the updated processing time for TSC
Can you tell me the processing time for i140 Skilled and professional worker
thanks
mhathi
09-19 03:05 PM
Ok, I've seen a lot of threads about go to the rally, actions items, I've reading a lot of guys saying dont ask for your receipt status, dont waste your time etc, etc.
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
Things don't happen overnight... From your questions it looks like you half expected lawmakers to come out in the rally and announce that we hereby increase visa numbers to ####. Things dont happen that way.
The rally put our issues in front of the lawmakers eyes so they can help in influencing and introducing legislation for us... and when they do, we need to be equally active as for the CIR with faxes and emails and calls to lawmakers...
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
Things don't happen overnight... From your questions it looks like you half expected lawmakers to come out in the rally and announce that we hereby increase visa numbers to ####. Things dont happen that way.
The rally put our issues in front of the lawmakers eyes so they can help in influencing and introducing legislation for us... and when they do, we need to be equally active as for the CIR with faxes and emails and calls to lawmakers...
