glus
04-20 08:19 AM
Guys, let's send more letters to the White House. Good, free initiative.
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GCwaitforever
11-16 02:53 PM
This is relevant because some of us have EAD which is legal authorization to work (restricted though) or spouses have EADs (unrestricted). Placing barriers like US citizens only or Greencard holders only is discriminatory.
calabor2001
05-07 11:52 PM
I don't even know where to start on this. Should I be angry or frustrated or laugh at the incompetence of DoS/USCIS or is it just time to leave US and move to more immigration friendly country or better yet - settle down in my home country. I have spent close to a decade in the US, already have a Masters and almost done with the second one. Decided to take a break and visit India/family after 3.5 years. Guess what, I am stuck - since Jan. 7th 2008. No questions asked, no information provided - just handed over a pink slip in the name of "221g - Additional Administrative Processing". So, from being a law-abiding citizen paying his taxes and doing everything by the book, I overnight became a "threat to the national security" whose background needed to be checked. What kind of BS is that? And why for heaven's sake are you worried about me AFTER I have already left the country on my own accord. Subject me to SC while I am there and deport me if something fishy is found. Don't make me go through this WHEN I MYSELF left the country... Oh! Logic - these F@#$heads don't have that.
I don't even have a freaking traffic violation on my name and here I am. Go figure! thankfully, I have family in New Delhi (I went to the embassy here) and a fast Internet connection to continue working - but for how long?
I have called DoS religiously every week for the last few months now... same crappy response, just a different day. I went to the embassy last week to inquire and oh my lord! I was treated like a terrorist. My wife took an Infopass apptt. to figure out and the officer said, "Who knows your husband may be involved in something you don't know?" :) That is when we gave up laughing... understanding and agreeing that if nothing changes in a reasonable amount of time (to each his own) we will change our situation our selves.
I don't even have a freaking traffic violation on my name and here I am. Go figure! thankfully, I have family in New Delhi (I went to the embassy here) and a fast Internet connection to continue working - but for how long?
I have called DoS religiously every week for the last few months now... same crappy response, just a different day. I went to the embassy last week to inquire and oh my lord! I was treated like a terrorist. My wife took an Infopass apptt. to figure out and the officer said, "Who knows your husband may be involved in something you don't know?" :) That is when we gave up laughing... understanding and agreeing that if nothing changes in a reasonable amount of time (to each his own) we will change our situation our selves.
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eager_immi
01-31 01:57 PM
I agree. No filing for 485 hence no Fee for USCIS. Also does this increase in fee mean in increase in effecieny :)
Well, everyone wishes the rumour to be true.
But you know what, to realize the increase in fees for the I-485, they should allow people to file for it. Unless people start filing for I-485's they are not going to make the $2billion in 2 yrs. If retrogression continues, guess the fee increase doesn't make much sense.... Not sure whether I am right or wrong here.
Well, everyone wishes the rumour to be true.
But you know what, to realize the increase in fees for the I-485, they should allow people to file for it. Unless people start filing for I-485's they are not going to make the $2billion in 2 yrs. If retrogression continues, guess the fee increase doesn't make much sense.... Not sure whether I am right or wrong here.
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desi3933
06-19 02:52 PM
Employer letter is not required if you are attaching photocopies of two current pay stubs.
Thanks,
Jayant
Mr. Jayant -
This is incorrect.
Remember, GC is for the future job and I-485 is not H1 filing where you need pay stubs.
One needs EVL for I-485. The job position must be open in order for beneficiary to file for I-485 application.
Have a good day!
Thanks,
Jayant
Mr. Jayant -
This is incorrect.
Remember, GC is for the future job and I-485 is not H1 filing where you need pay stubs.
One needs EVL for I-485. The job position must be open in order for beneficiary to file for I-485 application.
Have a good day!
widad2020
06-12 09:28 PM
This report is just released: Very interesting comments
The U.S. retains its global pre-eminence in science and technology,with a big boost from foreign students,scientists and engineers, a RandCorp. report said.
U.S. Still Leads the World in Science and Technology; Nation Benefits From Foreign Scientists, Engineers
Despite perceptions that the nation is losing its competitive edge, the United States remains the dominant leader in science and technology worldwide, according to a RAND Corporation study issued today.
The United States accounts for 40 percent of the total world�s spending on scientific research and development, employs 70 percent of the world�s Nobel Prize winners and is home to three-quarters of the world�s top 40 universities.
An inflow of foreign students in the sciences -- as well as scientists and engineers from overseas -- has helped the United States build and maintain its worldwide lead, even as many other nations increase their spending on research and development. Continuing this flow of foreign-born talent is critical to helping the United States maintain its lead, according to the study.
�Much of the concern about the United States losing its edge as the world�s leader in science and technology appears to be unfounded,� said Titus Galama, co-author of the report and a management scientist at RAND, a nonprofit research organization. �But the United States cannot afford to be complacent. Effort is needed to make sure the nation maintains or even extends its standing.�
U.S. investments in research and development have not lagged in recent years, but instead have grown at rates similar to what has occurred elsewhere in the world -- growing even faster than what has been seen in Europe and Japan. While China is investing heavily in research and development, it does not yet account for a large share of world innovation and scientific output, which continues to be dominated by the United States, Europe and Japan, according to RAND researchers.
However, other nations are rapidly educating their populations in science and technology. For instance, the European Union and China each are graduating more university-educated scientists and engineers every year than the United States.
Policymakers often receive advice from ad hoc sources. Although their viewpoints are valuable, they should be balanced by more complete and critical assessments of U.S. science and technology, said report co-author James Hosek, a RAND senior economist. The absence of a balanced assessment can feed a public misperception that U.S. science and technology is failing when in fact it remains strong, even preeminent.
�There is a pressing need for ongoing, objective analyses of science and technology performance and the science and technology workforce. We need this information to ensure that decision makers have a rigorous understanding of the issues,� Hosek said.
Among the study�s recommendations:
Establish a permanent commitment to fund a chartered body that would periodically monitor and analyze U.S. science and technology performance and the condition of the nation�s science and engineering workforce.
Make it easier for foreigners who have graduated from U.S. universities with science and engineering degrees to stay indefinitely in the United States.
Make it easier for highly skilled labor to immigrate to the United States to ensure the benefits of expanded innovation are captured in the United States and to help the United States remain competitive in research and innovation.
Increase the United States� capacity to learn from science centers in Europe, Japan, China, India and other countries.
Continue to improve K-12 education in general, and science and technology education in particular.
The inflow of foreign students, scientists and engineers has been a key factor that has enabled the U.S. science and engineering workforce to grow faster than the U.S. is graduating native-born scientists and engineers, according to the report. Researchers found that foreign-born scientists and engineers are paid the same as native born, suggesting their quality is on par.
But a recent reduction in the cap on skilled immigrant visas (H1-B) has the potential to reduce the inflow of foreign science and engineering workers, and the report argues that curtailing the supply of these scientists and engineers can lead U.S. firms to outsource more research and development to foreign countries and locate new facilities overseas. Rather than protecting jobs, this could lead to reduced investment and employment at home.
Among potential weaknesses faced by the United States are the persistent underperformance of older, native-born K-12 students in math and science and the heavy focus of federal research funding on the life sciences versus physical sciences. Another unknown is whether an increasing U.S. reliance on foreign-born workers in science and engineering makes the U.S. vulnerable. In recent years, about 70 percent of the foreign scientists and engineers who receive PhDs from U.S. universities choose to remain here, but the stay rate could fall as research conditions and salaries improve abroad.
The RAND report was sponsored by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel & Readiness and conducted within the Forces and Resources Policy Center of the RAND National Defense Research Institute, a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, the Unified Combatant Commands, the Department of the Navy, the Marine Corps., the defense agencies and the defense Intelligence Community.
The report, �U.S. Competitiveness in Science and Technology,� can be found at www.rand.org.
The U.S. retains its global pre-eminence in science and technology,with a big boost from foreign students,scientists and engineers, a RandCorp. report said.
U.S. Still Leads the World in Science and Technology; Nation Benefits From Foreign Scientists, Engineers
Despite perceptions that the nation is losing its competitive edge, the United States remains the dominant leader in science and technology worldwide, according to a RAND Corporation study issued today.
The United States accounts for 40 percent of the total world�s spending on scientific research and development, employs 70 percent of the world�s Nobel Prize winners and is home to three-quarters of the world�s top 40 universities.
An inflow of foreign students in the sciences -- as well as scientists and engineers from overseas -- has helped the United States build and maintain its worldwide lead, even as many other nations increase their spending on research and development. Continuing this flow of foreign-born talent is critical to helping the United States maintain its lead, according to the study.
�Much of the concern about the United States losing its edge as the world�s leader in science and technology appears to be unfounded,� said Titus Galama, co-author of the report and a management scientist at RAND, a nonprofit research organization. �But the United States cannot afford to be complacent. Effort is needed to make sure the nation maintains or even extends its standing.�
U.S. investments in research and development have not lagged in recent years, but instead have grown at rates similar to what has occurred elsewhere in the world -- growing even faster than what has been seen in Europe and Japan. While China is investing heavily in research and development, it does not yet account for a large share of world innovation and scientific output, which continues to be dominated by the United States, Europe and Japan, according to RAND researchers.
However, other nations are rapidly educating their populations in science and technology. For instance, the European Union and China each are graduating more university-educated scientists and engineers every year than the United States.
Policymakers often receive advice from ad hoc sources. Although their viewpoints are valuable, they should be balanced by more complete and critical assessments of U.S. science and technology, said report co-author James Hosek, a RAND senior economist. The absence of a balanced assessment can feed a public misperception that U.S. science and technology is failing when in fact it remains strong, even preeminent.
�There is a pressing need for ongoing, objective analyses of science and technology performance and the science and technology workforce. We need this information to ensure that decision makers have a rigorous understanding of the issues,� Hosek said.
Among the study�s recommendations:
Establish a permanent commitment to fund a chartered body that would periodically monitor and analyze U.S. science and technology performance and the condition of the nation�s science and engineering workforce.
Make it easier for foreigners who have graduated from U.S. universities with science and engineering degrees to stay indefinitely in the United States.
Make it easier for highly skilled labor to immigrate to the United States to ensure the benefits of expanded innovation are captured in the United States and to help the United States remain competitive in research and innovation.
Increase the United States� capacity to learn from science centers in Europe, Japan, China, India and other countries.
Continue to improve K-12 education in general, and science and technology education in particular.
The inflow of foreign students, scientists and engineers has been a key factor that has enabled the U.S. science and engineering workforce to grow faster than the U.S. is graduating native-born scientists and engineers, according to the report. Researchers found that foreign-born scientists and engineers are paid the same as native born, suggesting their quality is on par.
But a recent reduction in the cap on skilled immigrant visas (H1-B) has the potential to reduce the inflow of foreign science and engineering workers, and the report argues that curtailing the supply of these scientists and engineers can lead U.S. firms to outsource more research and development to foreign countries and locate new facilities overseas. Rather than protecting jobs, this could lead to reduced investment and employment at home.
Among potential weaknesses faced by the United States are the persistent underperformance of older, native-born K-12 students in math and science and the heavy focus of federal research funding on the life sciences versus physical sciences. Another unknown is whether an increasing U.S. reliance on foreign-born workers in science and engineering makes the U.S. vulnerable. In recent years, about 70 percent of the foreign scientists and engineers who receive PhDs from U.S. universities choose to remain here, but the stay rate could fall as research conditions and salaries improve abroad.
The RAND report was sponsored by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel & Readiness and conducted within the Forces and Resources Policy Center of the RAND National Defense Research Institute, a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, the Unified Combatant Commands, the Department of the Navy, the Marine Corps., the defense agencies and the defense Intelligence Community.
The report, �U.S. Competitiveness in Science and Technology,� can be found at www.rand.org.
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kak1978
01-13 09:39 AM
You should be ok. The purpose of COBRA is to have a continued coverage. usually insurance is month to month, so the coverage nessasarly doesn't end the day you quit. All COBRA does is allow you to pay the next months entire premium and keep the existing coverage.
I tried using COBRA last year and in my case the gap was 3 months and my monthly COBRA payments were about $900/month, since I did not have any ongoing medical conditions or foresee any like pregnancy etc, I went for short term private insurance to fill the gap.
Pardon my ignorance Gurus.
But Hypothetical....what would be the scenario, if,
- I leave the job-A on 1st of the month.
- join new job-B on 2nd of the month (very next day) but new employer wants me to complete 30 days before providing medical insurance
- my job-A insurance company sends me COBRA option in two weeks time as required by law
- Prior to I fill and send out the COBRA docs (roughly 2 - 3 weeks), I have to make some urgent visit to doctor...say in 1st week (say, on 4th of the month)
- will my job-A company will deny this claim as they only received my COBRA paperwork by 18th of the month whereas I went to doctor on 4th????
I tried using COBRA last year and in my case the gap was 3 months and my monthly COBRA payments were about $900/month, since I did not have any ongoing medical conditions or foresee any like pregnancy etc, I went for short term private insurance to fill the gap.
Pardon my ignorance Gurus.
But Hypothetical....what would be the scenario, if,
- I leave the job-A on 1st of the month.
- join new job-B on 2nd of the month (very next day) but new employer wants me to complete 30 days before providing medical insurance
- my job-A insurance company sends me COBRA option in two weeks time as required by law
- Prior to I fill and send out the COBRA docs (roughly 2 - 3 weeks), I have to make some urgent visit to doctor...say in 1st week (say, on 4th of the month)
- will my job-A company will deny this claim as they only received my COBRA paperwork by 18th of the month whereas I went to doctor on 4th????
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syzygy
06-05 11:41 AM
It looks like USCIS can make any new laws or change rules of game anytime. They live by their will.
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atul555
12-22 01:46 PM
But not because they are 'Indian' but because they are run by sarkari babus. If anyone wants proof Govt. can't run things even remotely as efficiently as private corporations, this is that case study.
Have to give American consulates in India the credit that they have outsourced some job to external private companies.
At Indian consulate the story is quite different. There are many who share Pooja's feeling on this subject as being used to dealing with efficient private businesses in US, as soon as you enter the consulate, the sarkari inefficiency hits you like a ton of bricks. Every small screwup looks like a giant under our microscope and each further screwup just frustrates us exponentially.
As per my last visit to SF consulate, bracing for the worst, I got a surprise to find that it was a breeze, mostly because the lady at the counter was more compassionate and accommodating then the prior ones. But the failure is glaringly at the top level where they fail to define and refine the process, proof-read the information on website (list of document is vague and contains repetitions).
To summarize I think good workers can deliver some time, but the team will ultimately be a failure without good management at the top, and we all know the top management is sarkari babus who could care less as they were appointed from the sifarish of the Govt in New Delhi and not on their own merit.
Have to give American consulates in India the credit that they have outsourced some job to external private companies.
At Indian consulate the story is quite different. There are many who share Pooja's feeling on this subject as being used to dealing with efficient private businesses in US, as soon as you enter the consulate, the sarkari inefficiency hits you like a ton of bricks. Every small screwup looks like a giant under our microscope and each further screwup just frustrates us exponentially.
As per my last visit to SF consulate, bracing for the worst, I got a surprise to find that it was a breeze, mostly because the lady at the counter was more compassionate and accommodating then the prior ones. But the failure is glaringly at the top level where they fail to define and refine the process, proof-read the information on website (list of document is vague and contains repetitions).
To summarize I think good workers can deliver some time, but the team will ultimately be a failure without good management at the top, and we all know the top management is sarkari babus who could care less as they were appointed from the sifarish of the Govt in New Delhi and not on their own merit.
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wcs
03-05 09:32 AM
Hello,
As we are aware that Immigrationvoice is going to send massive letters to Mr. President by saying broken immigration system.
Does anyone know that those letters already sent to white house or not? If yes, is there any reply from white house or not.
Please share it here.
As we are aware that Immigrationvoice is going to send massive letters to Mr. President by saying broken immigration system.
Does anyone know that those letters already sent to white house or not? If yes, is there any reply from white house or not.
Please share it here.
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paskal
06-24 03:58 PM
I was wondering if update is only available through state chapter? If so we are in blackhole,,, as many of us are not members of state chapter..
Or if we have more action items to act on apart from calling reps..chc and lamar smith ?
Neways.. i have asked for NC state chapter enrollment ..so hopefully i'll get the updates from then on...:)
there is only one action item right now and it is on the forum.
the update and action needed prior to this was handled by state chapters, however everyone is now up to date with what needs to be done.
state chapters are voluntary but very effective in initiating grassroots approaches to our problems, they have also proved very effective with focussed actions recently. a state chapter is simply a local community that networks and offers support. so it really has many other advantages than just a question of updates.
anyway there is no fresh update currently.
Or if we have more action items to act on apart from calling reps..chc and lamar smith ?
Neways.. i have asked for NC state chapter enrollment ..so hopefully i'll get the updates from then on...:)
there is only one action item right now and it is on the forum.
the update and action needed prior to this was handled by state chapters, however everyone is now up to date with what needs to be done.
state chapters are voluntary but very effective in initiating grassroots approaches to our problems, they have also proved very effective with focussed actions recently. a state chapter is simply a local community that networks and offers support. so it really has many other advantages than just a question of updates.
anyway there is no fresh update currently.
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IneedAllGreen
06-27 05:18 PM
Yes my in-laws are fine and they were not disappointed seeing me in person. But I am gigling by looking at this thread is growing and at page 3 someone put a shame on this thread. As for me sometime its fun and Ok to share minor detail or personal detail to give confidence to someone doing same thing which we went thru(like I have beein using photos taken at Kinkos and Sears). Nevertheless since date is coming closer to file our 485 it makes me happy to see several smiley face and helping hands in IV forums. Glad to be helping others and ignore rants of others.
I am just here to share my thoughts and knowledge nothing personal to anyone. So to everyone Dont worry:( ! Be happy :) .
Thanks :D (This extra smile for all IV members)
I am sure SEARS pictures are great.
Hope your in-laws are not disappointed when they saw you in person :) :).... No ... I am just kidding .......No offense meant :):).... I am sure they like you and that is why you are married happily now :) Just wanted to bring a lighter moment tho this stingy thread.
I am just here to share my thoughts and knowledge nothing personal to anyone. So to everyone Dont worry:( ! Be happy :) .
Thanks :D (This extra smile for all IV members)
I am sure SEARS pictures are great.
Hope your in-laws are not disappointed when they saw you in person :) :).... No ... I am just kidding .......No offense meant :):).... I am sure they like you and that is why you are married happily now :) Just wanted to bring a lighter moment tho this stingy thread.
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JA1HIND
01-27 01:55 PM
To he who handed over $7K.....
If you have good documentation of this... then there are some fees that employers are not allowed to pass on to employee (either in part or in whole).
These include things like H1B processing fees.
They might include labor certification fees (required for GC).
Now unless the 50% specifically identifies which fees, I would take it to mean 50% of all. If your were charged for 50% of something that it is illegal to charge for then Department of Labor may pursue both on your behalf and in the public interest. By pursue, I mean get your money back (or some of it) and fine or worse to employer.
So find out what documents you have and where your local dept of labor is, and go and pay the friendly staff a visit.
I know someone that was done out of a few thousand in unpaid overtime. They got his money back for him, even though he only went to them years after, but he had pay slips showing hours worked and money paid. They handled it all for him.
Thank you so much and really appreciate for giving me an idea on how to approach.. I will look into my folders and see what all proof I have in order to defend myself...I know the fact that all my emails communications and shared documents, payslips are still in place and will for sure find something out of it...
If you have good documentation of this... then there are some fees that employers are not allowed to pass on to employee (either in part or in whole).
These include things like H1B processing fees.
They might include labor certification fees (required for GC).
Now unless the 50% specifically identifies which fees, I would take it to mean 50% of all. If your were charged for 50% of something that it is illegal to charge for then Department of Labor may pursue both on your behalf and in the public interest. By pursue, I mean get your money back (or some of it) and fine or worse to employer.
So find out what documents you have and where your local dept of labor is, and go and pay the friendly staff a visit.
I know someone that was done out of a few thousand in unpaid overtime. They got his money back for him, even though he only went to them years after, but he had pay slips showing hours worked and money paid. They handled it all for him.
Thank you so much and really appreciate for giving me an idea on how to approach.. I will look into my folders and see what all proof I have in order to defend myself...I know the fact that all my emails communications and shared documents, payslips are still in place and will for sure find something out of it...
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GCplease
02-29 01:54 PM
Mailed mine and 2 of my co-workers' letters to IV on 2/26/08.
Already sent them to the White House a couple of weeks ago.
Already sent them to the White House a couple of weeks ago.
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matreen
08-15 04:36 PM
Is there a way you can get me a sample letter from employer?
My private email is mateens@hotmail.com
Thanks,
M
My private email is mateens@hotmail.com
Thanks,
M
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485Mbe4001
06-04 05:38 PM
actually Gotcher has a very valid point. USCIS creates rules based on their need and 'flavor of the month'. They should be open with their practices. We can then calculate the time it will take to get out of this mess.
Once FBI name checks were a great deal, now they are ok to issue GCs in the interm, thousands were screwed in the process. Some times it is FIFO sometimes it is received date, sometimes it is something else. There are thousands whose professional lives are hanging at the mercy of these rules and arcane methods of functioning.
Once FBI name checks were a great deal, now they are ok to issue GCs in the interm, thousands were screwed in the process. Some times it is FIFO sometimes it is received date, sometimes it is something else. There are thousands whose professional lives are hanging at the mercy of these rules and arcane methods of functioning.
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BharatPremi
11-06 04:35 PM
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doggy
07-21 09:45 PM
Hey Ronhira, I really enjoyed reading your reply.. I really don't care about this so called call but your reply simply made me smile. Thanks...
You are right. I was on the call, and they only blathered about some Job ADS that specify "H1 Only" or something. THey have an rss feed going on the left side of the brightfuturejobs site, and they want the Antis to post en masse about how these jobs violate their rights.
The push is to get the Durbin bill passed. And they want to use these posts as "historical evidence" or some crap like that.
Pretty much BS. What a waste.
I think there were probably 10-15 people who joined. But I could identify 4/5 separate individuals. So, probably rest of them were Indians.
You are right. I was on the call, and they only blathered about some Job ADS that specify "H1 Only" or something. THey have an rss feed going on the left side of the brightfuturejobs site, and they want the Antis to post en masse about how these jobs violate their rights.
The push is to get the Durbin bill passed. And they want to use these posts as "historical evidence" or some crap like that.
Pretty much BS. What a waste.
I think there were probably 10-15 people who joined. But I could identify 4/5 separate individuals. So, probably rest of them were Indians.
140jibjab
05-15 05:13 PM
Deals net, I was wrongly implicated in the case.!! If the wife/girlfriend wants to screw you they can say anything to the police!! She wanted me out of her life because she was having a affair!! and She brught the police when I showed her the evidence!! I guess You do not have a wife/girl like that in your life.
I pleaded guilty to save my career!!.
Sometimes wrong people get into your life and you have to deal with the consequence!! This situation can happen to anyone who dont watch out for people who walk into your life!!
In my pevious post I did not want to mention / wash the dirty Linens in Public. but your Why help(without knowing the details)! attitude made me write this. Hope you do not Prejudge people in your life, and since this could happen to you !! just remember my words.
Love and respect!
I pleaded guilty to save my career!!.
Sometimes wrong people get into your life and you have to deal with the consequence!! This situation can happen to anyone who dont watch out for people who walk into your life!!
In my pevious post I did not want to mention / wash the dirty Linens in Public. but your Why help(without knowing the details)! attitude made me write this. Hope you do not Prejudge people in your life, and since this could happen to you !! just remember my words.
Love and respect!
satishku_2000
05-31 01:35 AM
I am on a non immigrant visa and am fairly close to getting my green card through EB-1 under current system - so am basically screwed if the new law passes. I have sent my share of web faxes and have made my wife/ friends at work do the same. I view green card as a logistical convenience and not a do or die thing. If GC does not work out and my work visa upper limit expires - my company would move me elsewhere (or I can get another job somewhere else)....I dont consider myself beholden to any country except India (my country of birth) and would happily move around till I can afford to settle down comfortably in India
However, if I think rationally without being condescending, here is my take:
Legislators in a democratic country are answerable to the people who vote (that excludes all of us). If the Indian MPs start listening to the thousands of neighboring country (no offence intended - just illustration of a point) immigrants while making up their mind on any legislation - I would be damn pissed off - regardless of whether they pay taxes or not.
When we all came to US on work visas - US Govt did not make any promises about green card nor did they extend an express invitation to most of us (there may be some exceptional scientists/ educators etc here and I beg their apology)......the contract was between us and sponsoring employers..not with the US Govt...US Govt may choose to legislate the way they deem fit without asking us or listening to us- regardless of what 1 million folks have to say
The opposition to the new law from skilled, legal non-immigrants is not united....nor are the demands uniform....a divided front can never be a strong front.
No matter what IV or any other organization does (not to take anything away from the great work being done here)......the senators/ congressmen would listen only to those who have voting rights....I dont think anything is being done here to change public opinion of the common US citizen.....and I am not even sure how to do that....common US citizens think that Indians (and other work visa holders) are here to take away the nice white collar jobs which they took for granted.......
Senators/ congressment do not (and they should not in a real democracy) have any opinion - they are supposed to mirror the opinion of the voting majority...the reason they care about the illegal immigrants is because the ethnic segment from which an overwhelming number of illegals come from - their legal US citizen brethren have put their electoral weight behind this.....since many families are like 50% legal and 50% illegal......
with all due respect to you sir, Can you please explain us what to do? If someone want to pack bags and leave they can always do that and my humble advice to those people is dont waste your time on these forums.
However, if I think rationally without being condescending, here is my take:
Legislators in a democratic country are answerable to the people who vote (that excludes all of us). If the Indian MPs start listening to the thousands of neighboring country (no offence intended - just illustration of a point) immigrants while making up their mind on any legislation - I would be damn pissed off - regardless of whether they pay taxes or not.
When we all came to US on work visas - US Govt did not make any promises about green card nor did they extend an express invitation to most of us (there may be some exceptional scientists/ educators etc here and I beg their apology)......the contract was between us and sponsoring employers..not with the US Govt...US Govt may choose to legislate the way they deem fit without asking us or listening to us- regardless of what 1 million folks have to say
The opposition to the new law from skilled, legal non-immigrants is not united....nor are the demands uniform....a divided front can never be a strong front.
No matter what IV or any other organization does (not to take anything away from the great work being done here)......the senators/ congressmen would listen only to those who have voting rights....I dont think anything is being done here to change public opinion of the common US citizen.....and I am not even sure how to do that....common US citizens think that Indians (and other work visa holders) are here to take away the nice white collar jobs which they took for granted.......
Senators/ congressment do not (and they should not in a real democracy) have any opinion - they are supposed to mirror the opinion of the voting majority...the reason they care about the illegal immigrants is because the ethnic segment from which an overwhelming number of illegals come from - their legal US citizen brethren have put their electoral weight behind this.....since many families are like 50% legal and 50% illegal......
with all due respect to you sir, Can you please explain us what to do? If someone want to pack bags and leave they can always do that and my humble advice to those people is dont waste your time on these forums.
