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  • amitjoey
    08-11 10:21 AM
    Most of the Eb3's are either working for big companies who won't do GC in EB2 or not qualified for eb2 ( so called 3 year degree ) and enjoying all these years when they know clearly eb3 is not going any where ...what in the world prevent them to move up the ladder and porting their PDs ...They dont want to take any risk and just show their frustation in internet forums

    As some one in the forum quoted "There is a path of joy and there is the path of pleasure. Pondering on them, the wise (eb1 ,pre-approved labor and eb2 inorder ) chooses the path of joy; the fool takes the path of pleasure."

    Mr Path of Joy
    I am EB3 India working for a small company in construction design industry. I have enough experience, qualifications and degrees for an EB2. But it is not as simple as you make it sound.
    A major part- 8 out of my 15 year experience in this field has been with this employer and although my employer supports me, they are simply not hiring and have been having a difficult time since 2007. So, they cannot file for an EB2 Labor.

    I cannot change jobs, since my qualifications and experience will put me in a different job-description and title which I cannot because of how AC21 interprets the laws.

    So it is not as white and black as you make it sound. Most EB3 folks started their process way early in their careers and have moved on since. Some of us have been waiting for 10 years and have been in the country for 15 or more years.
    Some started during the last recession in 2001-2002 when EB2 was in scrutiny and dates were current for all, most employers and lawyers were touting the EB3 route.

    Anycase, I do not expect you to understand our situation. So continue speeding on your path of joy.





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  • vin13
    11-11 05:36 PM
    Is there any IV member in DC willing take up this task, while we work on document?

    Lets not limit this task for someone who is close to DC. The person close to DC can always represent to visit. But we need support in getting an appointment. Getting an appointment is something that is not limited to only individuals close to DC. Use the help of your congressman to get an appointment or their help to address this issue.

    the congressmen have aides who meet their constituents. Department officials need not give appointments to public. So we need some influence to get the appointment. I am meeting my congressman's aide on Nov 20th. But all of us need to do the same. hopefully one or more of us succeed.

    We can fine tune the letter in matter of minutes. WE NEED TO WORK ON GETTING THE APPOINTMENT.





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  • needhelp!
    09-26 12:07 PM
    I see the updated text. Good job IV folks!

    But it does seem out of place because the whole article is about H1..





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  • greyhair
    02-09 03:42 PM
    And reply you will never get.

    I'm not holding my breath any more.



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  • giveme_gc
    10-15 08:40 PM
    1) Rope in folks such as Vinod Khosla and Indra Nooyi to talk for us
    2) Differentiate ourselves from illegal immigrants
    3) Statistics such as taxes paid, contribution to economy, etc will help
    4) Ability to purchase homes, start business, and create jobs
    5) For the sizeable population we are, involvement in crime is minimal
    6) Peace loving people who want to live in this county and contribute towards its growth.



    Legal immigrant lobbies are weaker than illegal ones. We need to get more lobbying power to contribute to our causes. I dont know how many there are now, but we sure are weaker than the ones supporting the illegal immigrants. A lot more power in the corridors of Washington are needed to move things to our side. Hopefully our next generation will see better representation than the woeful lack that we face now. I agree with Bechara that sending flowers wont help.





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  • mpadapa
    09-12 11:08 AM
    There is still seats available on the tri-state bus..
    Hop on the bus (free ride) for a journey towards better future
    click on my signature



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  • PHANI_TAVVALA
    05-12 03:33 PM
    While I wait for GC and chewed up all finger nails, I thought its good time to think about adding a qualification to myself.

    I do not want to spend rest of my life in development. :cool:

    I was doing some research on Online MBA (no..not the diploma mills or degree printing ones)

    My criteria was,
    1) Institutions that require GMAT
    2) AACSB Accredited
    3) Has some sensible ranking in USNews or Financial Times or Business Week
    4) Can be done without leaving current job (occasional visit to universities are fine with me)

    Here are the universities I came up
    1) Warrington College of Business, Florida (USNEWS ranking)
    2) WP Carey, Arizona State University (USNEWS ranking)
    3) Kelley Direct, Indiana University (highly regarded)
    4) Penn State World Campus MBA

    And then there are many $$ category colleges which I didnt bother to check..I can't pay those fees :)

    Now, can any one suggest or comment or refer to any other college?

    Also, what kind of disciplines we should check in an MBA..I dont know if MBA finance will be good..as such I have no preferences. (anything related to Investment banking etc will be good though)

    I am doing Kelley Direct and would definitely recommend it. The Professors are great and course work feels like your regular full-time load with assignments, quizzes, mid-terms and finals, project works, case discussions and some weekly classes. Most of the professors are very interactive and you can always call them. The teaching faculty is top-quality with some of them having Ph.d's from MIT's and Stanford's. Marketing is considered top-notch at Kelley. Curriculum allows some flexibility and course load can be completed in 2 to 4 year period requiring 1week compulsory on-campus presence in 1st and 2nd year. If you have time, you can also participate in 3 to 4 week clinics for 1.5 credit hours in summers. It is now costing me around $975/credit hour with 48 credits required to graduate. Add to this cost of books at other administration/technology fee which might add upto $5k to $8k.

    I have couple of friends who graduated from Thunderbird too. It is top-notch for International Business but doesnot allow the flexibility to complete at your own pace. My friends were totally tied up with work and course-load for 2 years. It requires somewhere between 51 to 54 credit hours to graduate. It has two compulsory International workshop clinics each in 1st and 2nd year for a period of 3 to 4 weeks. This is partly paid from the fee, while you need to pay for flight tickets and meals. I think the books are included in the $57k+ tuition for this program.

    Kelley full-time is ranked between 18 and 23 depending on which source you would like to use. Its Marketing Discipline is in top10. Thunderbird is not ranked in TOP50 but it's INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS discipline is ranked number one.





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  • ashkam
    12-21 07:46 AM
    Now I am really afraid. G-325 form has section to provide last 5 jobs. Since I had a gap, I didn't provide the details for the year 2001. I am royally screwed now! :(

    G-325 does not ask for last 5 jobs, only last 5 year jobs, so you should be okay.



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  • jcgc
    02-21 02:13 PM
    I can share some estimates for EB2 India through Dec03. I wish had the cases as a database, Then we could query for all dates.

    Column 1: PD
    Column 2: Nbr. Of EB2 India pending from
    Column 3: Estimated Universe of EB2 India Pending ( to Universe ratio of 6.75%)
    Column 4: Cumulative EB2 India pending

    2000-01 0 - -
    2000-03 0 - -
    2000-04 1 15 15
    2000-06 1 15 30
    2000-08 0 - 30
    2000-11 1 15 44
    2000-12 0 - 44
    2001-01 0 - 44
    2001-03 1 15 59
    2001-04 3 44 104
    2001-05 2 30 133
    2001-06 6 89 222
    2001-07 3 44 267
    2001-08 1 15 281
    2001-09 1 15 296
    2001-10 6 89 385
    2001-11 2 30 415
    2001-12 2 30 444
    2002-01 5 74 519
    2002-02 4 59 578
    2002-03 1 15 593
    2002-04 3 44 637
    2002-05 11 163 800
    2002-06 7 104 904
    2002-07 5 74 978
    2002-08 5 74 1,052
    2002-09 5 74 1,126
    2002-10 14 207 1,333
    2002-11 16 237 1,570
    2002-12 11 163 1,733
    2003-01 13 193 1,926
    2003-02 12 178 2,104
    2003-03 20 296 2,400
    2003-04 13 193 2,593
    2003-05 16 237 2,830
    2003-06 17 252 3,081
    2003-07 22 326 3,407
    2003-08 18 267 3,674
    2003-09 18 267 3,941
    2003-10 29 430 4,370
    2003-11 17 252 4,622
    2003-12 18 267 4,889
    Total 330 4,889





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  • go_gc_way
    12-27 08:53 PM
    Thank you,Perm2GC, cshen, you folks are simply EXCELLENT.
    Thank you srikond, ofcourse your idea is interesting, you can probably assess it in detail further and let IV forum know.
    Thanks to sbeyyala for taking the initiative to talk to association. Thanks srikondoji ,we_can,rajesh_kamisetti.

    Thank you for implementing the IV action item to increase membership towards 10,000.

    I think you folks here have set a great example by following the idea, just like some of our friends on the more contributing threads. We have good leadership and combined it with a good followers/contributors like you , may be we will be getting what we want :-)

    I have noticed on murthy.com, the postings did not mention immigrationvoice.com, we need to post the url of immigration voice in the same postings.

    So far we have posted on the following web sites ..
    www.mitbbs.com,
    www.desigate.com,
    www.viaindia.com,
    www.chicagosamachar.com
    www.sulekha.com
    dallas.eknazar.com
    www.indiagrid.com
    murthyforum.atinfopop.com
    en.enwikipedia.org

    A good beginning, but this is still less than the number of states in US :-) We need to do more.

    Dear IV members, who have not posted yet, please post now. Your 15 min will make a BIG difference.



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  • gcma08
    06-13 04:21 PM
    I got an approval notice sent update on 06/10 but no updates later. Anybody got cards who got approved during this time ?

    PD: Jan 22 2004 (EB2-RIR, India) NSC
    Labor Approved: 10/10/2006 NSC
    I-140 AD: 11/27/2006
    I-485 RD: 07/09/2007
    EAD, AP: Sep/Oct 2007
    RFE: 11/29/2007 Responded: 12/6/2007
    LUD/AD: 6/6/2008 (Card Production Ordered)
    LUD/AD: 6/11/2008 (Approval Notice Sent)





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  • deepimpact
    09-11 02:41 AM
    I understand how overflow gets distributed and Eb3-I is last in line. However , if net reduction is 35-40K each year starting 2010(i.e oct 2009 to oct 2010) and the backlog is 200 K at the beginning of 2010 (Inventory report) , we should work through all the backlog in 5 (40 *5) years.

    That means in 2-3 years overflow should get to EB3 I because rest of the category will be current by then .

    I agree people who applied in 2003 -2004 are looking at 10 year wait as against someone applying for EB3-I - today . Infact someone applying today will get GC in 5 years from now.

    The actual backlog at beginning of 2010 is 200K (pending I-485) + all EB2 I/C and EB3 waiting to file I-485 from 2007-2010. The no of folks in EB2I/C and EB3 ROW from 2007-2010 will be about 80-100K. So instead of 2-3 years , overflow will start reaching EB3 in ~ 5 years.



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  • GreeNever
    06-13 11:22 AM
    Folks! MSNBC is organizing a gut check on the immigration issue (though this appears to be on issues related to illegal immigration). It's a message board inviting opinions on immigration with an expert panel set to reply to the meesages posted. Eventually, messages will be short-listed for publishing. We may be able to make an opportunity out of this.

    Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18826755/





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  • Jaime
    09-10 03:53 PM
    By the way, here's a funny (and sad but true) anecdote. I had already been on H1-B status with my current employer for over a year when I engaged HR to start my green card/adjustment of status process. The answer I got from the HR person was "Oh, sorry, but we don't sponsor"...I was frozen! Did not know whether to laugh or cry out loud! "But dear, you already have sponsored me!" I told the poor lady.....

    Funny? Pathetic? WE NEED TO FIX THIS! AND THIS STARTS AT OUR RALLY IN WASHINGTON! LET'S ALL GO!!!!!



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  • syzygy
    09-28 02:40 PM
    What can be more racist and unfair than USA as of today when hundred thousands of people who already gave their youth energy to innovation are being made to live hell like lives? I am sure many of us will find medical repercussions of what we are going through in few more years and then we can frame GC or AP or EAD or H1B extension and stare at it from hospital beds :) Cornyn / Durbin is all BS, they just don't want people to settle here, they just want slaves. Rest all are hurdles and policies to close any possible open door for deserving.

    It's true that Europe can be a tough place, as can Canada or the U.S. to a newcomer. What is true about Europe is that it is a socialist place, salaries are lower, taxes are higher, racism is stronger, houses are smaller, yet you are also surrounded by beautiful places and there is a lot to do and see. It depends what type of person you are. Some Europeans hate Europe themselves and want to come to the U.S. as much or more than you did when you immigrated here. I'd say Europe is a good Plan B if all else fails here in America for you, and then you can always go back to India or China if you didn't like Europe.

    Hopefully we don't need to get sucked in by the Reverse Brain Drain and we can help Congress help us, by changing the law, and retaining the high-skilled legal immigrants like us who are suffering and stuck in backlogs, and which is the only fair thing to do!





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  • varshadas
    01-30 12:22 PM
    This is what I have come up with so far. Please everyone, feel free to modify this:

    Have you been following at the snails pace movement of the priority dates? If not, here are some reminders
    EB3 moved 2 weeks in 10 months!
    EB2 hardly moved in 10 months!

    If this is the rate at which things move, you will get your Green Card in anywhere from 5 to 15 years based on your priority dates.

    Do you know how this affects you?
    � Frustration of sticking to the same employer and no career growth.
    � Children not being able to get state benefits.
    � Spouses unable to work.
    � The feeling of unsettlement.
    � Above all, tons of mental stress.

    Do you want be in this mess for ever. I am sure you don�t. We deserve better.

    We all have to fight together to fix this broken immigration system and achieve IV�s goals to
    � Remove retrogression
    � Remove backlogs in labor certification
    � Remove backlogs in I-140 and I-485 processing
    � Revise the way visa quotas for highly skilled workers are determined

    Register FREE to become a member today!
    www.immigrationvoice.org



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  • fullerene
    06-12 10:15 PM
    I don't think the senator version of CIR will be passed at the house so I hope CIR fails completely. So senators can move ahead to vote provisions separately in favor of EB and H1 applicants.





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  • himu73
    07-02 07:34 AM
    Hope you understand this is not the only issue we are concerned. If you feel this organization is not for you , why are you browsing here. Keep away. This is not the time we need negative energy like you.

    i can say only one thing..IV willl not be able to do anythingin this regard.USCIS can do anything whatever the way hat want to do.





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  • MDix
    02-08 03:42 PM
    There is always chance of waste of visas, but i guess CIS is doing ok job from last two years.





    chanduv23
    02-13 10:55 PM
    Dear friends,

    I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. If any of you remember your history lessons from high school, the English used this exact policy of "Divide and Rule" to keep control over their colonies.

    For example, in India, they would go into Moslem dominated cities, discriminate against them for jobs, and put Hindus in more prestigious positions, and vice-versa. They did this after the first war for independence in 1857 where Hindus, Moslems, rich and poor fought to overthrow the British occupation.

    The very same policy is used by the U.S. government to control their population:

    1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting

    2) Infighting causes immigrant activists like IV to lose focus and weaken the agenda

    3) Infighting results in racism between ROW, India, and China, which causes Americans to watch the circus, shake their heads and lobby for more immigration control

    4) Poor regulation in the H1B program cause Americans to lose their jobs and blame the Indians and Chinese

    ...and the elite sit back, sip their martinis, and watch the fun.

    So you have two choices before you:
    1) Keep fighting, achieve none of the 3 main IV objectives, and continue your bonded slavery or
    2) Unite as one to achieve all 3 objectives, and throw off your shackles

    Remember, "Injustice Anywhere is a Threat to Justice Everywhere" - Martin Luther King

    I am a strong advocate of Unity and I appreciate your post. Infighting exists everywhere, it is not created but exists in us and our thought process. Let us not say that USCIS or US govt creates the "infighting" by divide and rule. We fight among ourselves because we are unorganized and do not have a platform. IV has provided one of the biggest platforms that caters to all highly skilled immigrants which covers a broad range of issues and is a wonderful platform for all of us to unite.

    United we stand, divided we fall - if people find reasons not to be united, then they can expect Lou Dobbs accusing them even after they become US citizens





    gc_kaavaali
    12-21 08:12 PM
    Please somebody answer my question...

    Hi,
    My friend working in company A on L1...he has approved H1 also...if he needs to move from L1 to H1, does he needs to go out of country and get it stamped before he starts working on H1?